Pollard Addresses MBB

[jmb]

of that number does ISU represent a larger number than other schools?

p.s. this isn't addressing MBB it is simply assigning social blame, and providing 'excuses'. It is weird how the coach at Butler doesn't have his AD out answering questions about this issue

 

[alarson]

Absolutely ridiculous response by Jamie.

Are transfers up across the nation? Signs point to yes. Does that mean that we dont have a problem? No. By the numbers, that's less than one transfer per school per year. We have been exceeding that average by a HUGE margin for the entirety of GMac's tenure. If we'd only had one transfer per year (still above average but a lot less) I'd be thrilled.

And bottom line... you get a little more tolerance for transfers when you're winning. The bottom line is GMac is one of a handful of BCS coaches who have failed to make a postseason in his 4 year tenure, and its doubtful he'll do any better next season, in large part due to the transfers he has had. If we were only at average losses this year and only losing say..... Buckley, we'd still have a much greater chance of doing something than we do now.

 

[tamjam]

The bottom line is GMac is one of a handful of BCS coaches who have failed to make a postseason in his 4 year tenure

That brings up a great question in my mind. How many other coaches at BCS schools have not been to an NCAA or an NIT in the last four years and are still coaching at the same school?

 

[Spam]

GM needs to just keep hoping for more transfers every year. It's the way to maximize job safety.

 

[cycopath25]

That letter is absolutely astonishing. How can he continue to protect McDermott and push all the blame on to the players? I am just shocked.

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[hawkadoodledoo]

I actually agree with Pollard. I'm getting sick of hearing, so and so is transferring, and their reasoning is always bull****. I want to be closer to home, blah blah blah. You should have thought about that before you signed your letter of intent. It's why the good teams get better, and the bad teams get worse. Perhaps the NCAA should step in, and start taking away a year of eligibility if you transfer from one division 1 school to another.

 

[Wesley]

Man...I would hate to be a D1 BCS bball coach. The level of Drama is unreal.

I think JP comments are spot on and I applaud the way he said it...takes some to say it, IMO. However, MAC still needs to adjust and PRODUCE results.

I do applaud JP for sticking with MAC, because if it works out...he will be a trend setter, culture changer. Most BCS conference have been fired by this point...there is no waiting game.

It's a big risk by JP, but the payout could be big.


What I am wondering is....where's the middle ground? If Mac can't relate to players (communicating constructive criticism vs personal attacks) and we fire him for a "Player friendly coach" how long before the "inmates running the joint" type arguments arise? Where more than likely...transfers will still occur.

There has to be a middle ground of Player accountability and not running at the first sign of adversity, or if ISU is apparent that it won't be a ticket to the league. But that's why MAC gets a million to figure that out. I don't envy that position...

The inmates are already running the team. They have left the house. We are now a 45 point a game team.

 

[Wesley]

GM needs to just keep hoping for more transfers every year. It's the way to maximize job safety.

2014 Future Headline: McD begins his Ninth Year One with his Newbie Six Recruits

 

[ISUChippewa]

Turning to basketball, I wonder if this doesn't explain why this wasn't happening under GMac at UNI.

To be fair, GMac did have a few transfers during his time at UNI, although not nearly to the same level as they are now.

That brings up a great question in my mind. How many other coaches at BCS schools have not been to an NCAA or an NIT in the last four years and are still coaching at the same school?

Hell, Wake Forest's AD fired their basketball coach after three winning seasons and two NCAA tournament seasons! Now I don't necessarily agree with that or think it was the right move, but what JP has essentially done is to accept and even reward pure mediocrity with our men's basketball program. How do you all think that sits with the rest of our athletic programs? JP has made coaching changes in both revenue and non-revenue sports. I wonder how this situation with MBB is seen by coaching staffs in other programs.

 

[alarson]

That brings up a great question in my mind. How many other coaches at BCS schools have not been to an NCAA or an NIT in the last four years and are still coaching at the same school?

According to my records there are only 5 schools that have not been to an NCAA or NIT in the last 4 years.

Of those, only one (ISU) has not had a coaching change over that 4 year period, with 2 of them (rutgers, iowa) firing their coaches this year.

 

[oldman]

Unfortunately if a kid’s world is not absolutely perfect (in their mind), they run from the problem rather than deal with it. Makes you wonder if it is the first signs of our society’s change in our early education program (no longer give kids grades – everybody passes; can’t keep score, everybody has to win; if you do not like something, have mom or dad complain on your behalf). Personally I wonder how that generation is going to survive in the real world when mom or dad or AAU coach are not there for them during their first job interview or first job evaluation. The bottom line is life is not a video game, you can’t just hit reset if you do not like your initial score.

I haven't read through all these posts, so if someone beat me to it, sorry. But this excerpt of JPs letter (or statement) is DEAD ON, imo.

 

[aauummm]

As long as we also did something with nomadic coaches, that's fair.

I agree. If a kid accepts a scholarship, they assume that the coach will be there for as long as they are and that's a fair assumption. Too often a coach will take a better job somewhere months after signing the kid, leaving the kid high and dry. Not good.

 

[aeroclone]

Feel free to correct my numbers.......but there are 317 D-1 schools right? Times two would be 634...correct? So if there are 500 transfers from said schools over a two year period....that's less than 1 transfer per school....per year, correct? So what is this "transfer epidemic" that JP and his "peers" are puzzled by? And why should what happens ANYWHERE else dictate his decisions here?

I think you are on the right track here. After a little quick research, there are currently 347 division 1 bball programs. So the epidemic has been 500 transfers over two years. ISU has had what, 7 in the last 2 years? And we may not be done yet.

D1 average = 0.72 transfers per year per team
ISU average = 3.5 per year

We are nearly 5X the national average. If transfers nationwide at an average of 0.72 is an epademic, then ISU is at complete armageddon! I agree with his points about youth these days, but what we are seeing is far from the norm. We aren't just seeing bench players, we are seeing starters leave. And when you look at the reasons given, they just don't pass the smell test.

-Ham wanted to be closer to home, he found that 500 miles farther away at LSU.
-Lucca had a great chance to go pro. He found that with a team that wasn't expecting him until after the season, and his great opportunity is now averaging less than a minute per game
-Brackins decided it was time to leave early to join the NBA. He is projected as a second round pick. How many people jumped early this year that are projected that low in the draft?
-Colvin decided the system didn't fit him. Of course he joined the team in the 4th year under GMac, and we have played the same system the whole time. I guess he didn't bother to watch how we played before he signed
-Buckley wanted more PT. I guess this makes sense. Though if he really couldn't get on the court much when we were starting an average guard with a severe case of mono, then he must have been a huge recruiting bust.

I won't even bother to go into the guys we lost in previous years, as this is more than enough to drive home the point. If we were just looking at one or two of these kids, sure, it is just the way the game is now. But looking at the big picture, and all of the facts, I don't see any way you can come to a conclusion other than to blame the staff. Heck, Pollard's own letter even indicates that part of the reason for the assistant coaching changes is to address this issue. Unfortunately, I think there is someone even bigger than the assistants that is part of this problem, and it seems for some reason we can't clean house there yet.

 

[Wesley]

of that number does ISU represent a larger number than other schools?

Yes, it is statistically significant. We led the nation with four, we followe it with three more so far. We had many from past years. Even Little Shaq Aaron Agnew left the premises.

Whereas one school may hit a speed bump for a year, we are like a swinging door to a lunch room. Our program looks like a juco with two year changeouts.

 

[kg-cyclone]

Unfortunately if a kid’s world is not absolutely perfect (in their mind), they run from the problem rather than deal with it. Makes you wonder if it is the first signs of our society’s change in our early education program (no longer give kids grades – everybody passes; can’t keep score, everybody has to win; if you do not like something, have mom or dad complain on your behalf). Personally I wonder how that generation is going to survive in the real world when mom or dad or AAU coach are not there for them during their first job interview or first job evaluation. The bottom line is life is not a video game, you can’t just hit reset if you do not like your initial score.

I haven't read through all these posts, so if someone beat me to it, sorry. But this excerpt of JPs letter (or statement) is DEAD ON, imo.

Just an observation: The people who seem to "get it" verse the ones that don't.

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[tamjam]

According to my records there are only 5 schools that have not been to an NCAA or NIT in the last 4 years.

Of those, only one (ISU) has not had a coaching change over that 4 year period, with 2 of them (rutgers, iowa) firing their coaches this year.

Thanks for finding that info. What are the other two schools that haven't been that have the same coach? Basically though, I find this astonishing.

 

[aauummm]

Unfortunately if a kid’s world is not absolutely perfect (in their mind), they run from the problem rather than deal with it. Makes you wonder if it is the first signs of our society’s change in our early education program (no longer give kids grades – everybody passes; can’t keep score, everybody has to win; if you do not like something, have mom or dad complain on your behalf). Personally I wonder how that generation is going to survive in the real world when mom or dad or AAU coach are not there for them during their first job interview or first job evaluation. The bottom line is life is not a video game, you can’t just hit reset if you do not like your initial score.

I haven't read through all these posts, so if someone beat me to it, sorry. But this excerpt of JPs letter (or statement) is DEAD ON, imo.

I agree, however, to be totally fair I must say that the young gentlemen of the Iowa State football team that I have met have absolutely impressed me. I won't name them because I know I'll leave someone out. But the ones that I have met are hard-working, responsible, polite, intelligent, well-spoken, not spoiled, gentlemen that any one of them I would be proud to call them my son. I just wanted to make sure that I had recognized that not all young people of today fit into the mold that Jamie is talking about (but the huge majority in my opinion do).

 

[CyCy]

So everything is just "Society's Problem" that JP and GM have absolutely no control over. One question - Doesn't every other Div 1 coach have to deal with the same issues, or does ISU exist in some vacuum that has these problems? The average Div 1 team has 1 transfer per year and we are at 3-4. I guess the other coaches are evaluating players better before they bring them in or have the people skills to address problem issues with players before they reach the point where the player feels they have to leave. JP - Since this is "Society's Problem", what is the plan to turn things around since I'm pretty sure that the basic society issues aren't going to be changing much in the near future.

 

[ajk4st8]

I honestly dont care if all the players transfer EVERY year.

Just win games. Figure a way to do it, and if you cant there are 10000 guys out there that can post a below .500 record here just as he is doing.

 

[alarson]

Thanks for finding that info. What are the other two schools that haven't been that have the same coach? Basically though, I find this astonishing.

The other 2 are oregon state (made change in 08) and colorado, who changed in 07, and lost their coach to Wake before he could make an NIT.