STATEMENT FROM BIG 12 ON JAMIE POLLARD

Frak

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Yeah, I don't care for JP's apology at all. What's he apologizing for? Either stand by what you believe or don't. Don't kiss up.

You must not know how these things work. EVERYONE apologizes after getting fined like this. It's just part of the routine. You can still be defiant in your apology and IMO Pollard was.
 

IAStubborn

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If there are 8 officials, then how in the hell was the holding call by the DB covering Bibbs not called on the early 3rd & short, play-action play? Think I am as ****** about that play as the review overturning the call on the field right before half.

As to the state of residence it wouldn't matter because one of the main culprits that has screwed ISU is from Iowa.

Isn't he a Texas grad living in Iowa, works for Pell Windows or Vermeer?
 

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Gotta admit. Being the lone vote against an 8th official hardly seems worthy of a witch hunt by the conference.

Some sort of personal vendetta? I don't buy it, but it could (has) happened. Does JP think they're out to get us because we potentially cut back their potential income or something?

It was a project Walt was spearheading and got the NCAA to pilot with the big 12 and the other AD'S and conference turned it into an affirmation of the quality of the B12 officiating office and our officials to pilot it here and then Pollard and Rhoad's dropped a turd in their punch bowl airing legit concerns Iin the middle of the groupthink love fest. I buy that their may be a little grievance with Pollard. Obviously Jamie thinks that and has said it to the Big 12/Bowlsby behind closed doors. Most things like this have petty beginnings. I bet it has more to do with us being Iowa State but if the guy has given him the cold shoulder lately it may seem like the two are connected. If Walt didn't like us before he sure as hell doesn't now though.
 

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So this boils down to Walt Anderson wanting more money for every Big XII game and more power for himself with the larger budgets. And we also have pretty clear evidence, that when one school had the audacity to say that isn't needed, he also has tried to punish that school with several terrible calls. Now we have a petty lead official who only cares about himself and the others refs wallets and not integrity of the game. Got it.

Also remember earlier this year during a Tech or OSU game I believe, the eighth official looked clueless. They had to stop the game several times after they had snapped the ball, once penalized the offense for going to quick, and all around slowed the game down. Even the announcers were getting confused with what they were doing.
 

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Every fan base of every team that loses a game thinks the refs suck. It's "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" any more.

Easy for tuco to say when his team was on the positive end of the con job two years ago that garnered an apology from the conference and reassignment of officials. And the famous dead ball three pointer in 2005 that I've never seen before or since in watching 35 years of basketball. The difference with Iowa State is that the complaints are tangible and Bowlsby and league officials know it. Pollard had absolutely nothing to lose with his press conference. $25,000 is immaterial and so what if the officials respond by jobbing ISU in the future. It can't get any worse than it's been. And it does put Big XII officials in the national spotlight. Say they make an obvious blunder like they did in the KState and OKState games, it WILL call their competency and integrity into question.
 

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Easy for tuco to say when his team was on the positive end of the con job two years ago that garnered an apology from the conference and reassignment of officials. And the famous dead ball three pointer in 2005 that I've never seen before or since in watching 35 years of basketball. The difference with Iowa State is that the complaints are tangible and Bowlsby and league officials know it. Pollard had absolutely nothing to lose with his press conference. $25,000 is immaterial and so what if the officials respond by jobbing ISU in the future. It can't get any worse than it's been. And it does put Big XII officials in the national spotlight. Say they make an obvious blunder like they did in the KState and OKState games, it WILL call their competency and integrity into question.

The replay booth was responsible. For them to screw up is inconsolable. FS1 provided all the shots that we saw and nothing could say he crossed the goal line. Yet the hidden replay ref fantasized he must have crossed.
 

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I wouldn't have trouble with that review if the goal was just to make the best judgement call you could. I think it was very close and I think he probably was in. The problem is irrefutable evidence. I have long thought that was stupid and the goal should just be to make the best call they can.
 

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“Mr. Pollard’s public statements called into question the integrity and competence of game officials and the Conference’s officiating program,â€￾ stated Commissioner Bob Bowlsby. “To imply that games are called unfairly to negatively impact a program is irresponsible and completely baseless. Accordingly, the seriousness of this violation warrants a public reprimand and a financial penalty. We take pride in our officiating programs and will continue to strive for the highest possible standards and the fairest competition.â€￾

i dont think they were made so much to negatively affect a program as to positively affect other programs, primarily to maintain ranking and potential bowl payouts in the conference. Most glaring example: That OSU loss in Ames in 2011 cost the conference a berth in the national championship game. If the officials would have just overturned that missed field goal call......
 

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So this boils down to Walt Anderson wanting more money for every Big XII game and more power for himself with the larger budgets. And we also have pretty clear evidence, that when one school had the audacity to say that isn't needed, he also has tried to punish that school with several terrible calls. Now we have a petty lead official who only cares about himself and the others refs wallets and not integrity of the game. Got it.

Also remember earlier this year during a Tech or OSU game I believe, the eighth official looked clueless. They had to stop the game several times after they had snapped the ball, once penalized the offense for going to quick, and all around slowed the game down. Even the announcers were getting confused with what they were doing.
I think it boils down to Ego. This guy lives and breaths officiating and this was his pet.
Pollard shat on his pet.
 

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I totally support Pollard and sincerely appreciate him standing up for ISU. On the other hand, Bowlsby's statement smacked of so much arrogance, it's repulsive and sickening.
 

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I totally support Pollard and sincerely appreciate him standing up for ISU. On the other hand, Bowlsby's statement smacked of so much arrogance, it's repulsive and sickening.

In light if the replay footage Bowlsby's statement put his moral character in line with a common criminal.
 

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The Official Big 12 Policy is that Big 12 Officials will continually screw over ISU. And there will No Longer be any apologies issued by the Big 12 to ISU. And if ISU complains they will be penalized. We have been given Official Notice that we are the Beeyatch of the Big 12 Conference.
 

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My guess is the Big 12 told Pollard to make something up for the 9-1 vote to clear things up. Really don't think it was the 8th official Pollard was talking about

At first I thought this was kind of a tinfoil hat idea, but when you listen to what JP actually said:

"Coach Rhoads and I, a year and a half ago, raised an issue. And we were the lone vote. And ever since that time, we've been on the short end of the stick."

It just doesn't seem to make sense with the idea of the vote that he is now claiming we opposed. Why would he say "raised an issue" with respect to the 8th official vote? Wouldn't that have been raised by everyone else, with ISU opposing the raising of the issue itself? I don't think this is mere semantics, because I don't think a person speaking honestly and openly would use the "raised an issue" language when talking about ISU's position in that vote.

Add on top of that the fact that the 8th official vote was reported to have been unanimous, and I think a good journalist would dig into this further. It wouldn't surprise me if the Big 12 told JP that he could not talk about the issue in question, which I guess would be the case for a personnel issue - i.e. if they wanted Walt Anderson or some specific football officials let go from the league.

Hoping to see somebody dig into this some more.
 

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At first I thought this was kind of a tinfoil hat idea, but when you listen to what JP actually said:

"Coach Rhoads and I, a year and a half ago, raised an issue. And we were the lone vote. And ever since that time, we've been on the short end of the stick."

It just doesn't seem to make sense with the idea of the vote that he is now claiming we opposed. Why would he say "raised an issue" with respect to the 8th official vote? Wouldn't that have been raised by everyone else, with ISU opposing the raising of the issue itself? I don't think this is mere semantics, because I don't think a person speaking honestly and openly would use the "raised an issue" language when talking about ISU's position in that vote.

Add on top of that the fact that the 8th official vote was reported to have been unanimous, and I think a good journalist would dig into this further. It wouldn't surprise me if the Big 12 told JP that he could not talk about the issue in question, which I guess would be the case for a personnel issue - i.e. if they wanted Walt Anderson or some specific football officials let go from the league.

Hoping to see somebody dig into this some more.

i posted last night that it was a long shot, but maybe they raised some other issues when the vote for an 8th official came up. One possibility would be that they used that discussion to argue for more transparency. And when their idea got shot down, they voted against the 8th guy to make their point.
 

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I totally agree. I'm confused.

The only thing I can glean from JP's comment is that an 8th official would speed up play, but also allows for more quick snapping to avoid a replay.

My thought ... Why can't the B12 mandate that all stadiums have goal line camera's. If replay is supposed to be an equalizing tool then make it air tight. Better cameras at the best angles.
 

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Jamie should pay them in Canadian pennies.

“Mr. Pollard’s public statements called into question the integrity and competence of game officials and the Conference’s officiating program,” stated Commissioner Bob Bowlsby. “To imply that games are called unfairly to negatively impact a program is irresponsible and completely baseless. Accordingly, the seriousness of this violation warrants a public reprimand and a financial penalty. We take pride in our officiating programs and will continue to strive for the highest possible standards and the fairest competition.”

You're failing in that effort, Bob.