*** Official #2 Houston vs IOWA STATE Game(Day) Thread ***
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Does 2+2=4? Metrics are math, not your feelings.
I haven't read all the messages here. I am glad we didn't storm the court. That is just another day for Cyclone basketball.
I think it was more a response to Kelvin blaming the loss on the officiating. I don't think responding that there were just as many or more missed foul calls on UH is out of line in that context.
These concerns make zero sense when there's so little continuity in the roster.
Minutes against Pitt last season...
38 = Holmes
37 = Kalscheur
35 = Lipsey
26 = King
16 = R. Jones
14 = Kunc
13 = Ward
11 = Watson
10 = Osunniyi
= 50.5% returning
The only guy remaining who logged minutes in the first TJ NCAA tournament is Big Rob.
This is practically a new team -- especially a new back court with Gilbert, Jiggy Curt, Pav, and Milan.
Normally I would agree with this but that is Houston's game and they have greater depth in the front line to execute it if the whistles come fast and furious for both teams.
This team is completely different than last year. The holdovers are all drastically better scorers than they were last year, and Gilbert and MM are more offensively talented than anyone Otz has had on a roster. Gabe and Holmes were good players, but they both were susceptible to some inefficient games, and if that happened at the same time, that team just didn't have a shot offensively.
And this team is very different than the team that played A&M and VT. The return of Ward doesn't seem like much on the offensive end, but it certainly helps.
And I'm not sure how you think Houston magically had all those turnovers. Not sure if you were at the game, but I took advantage of the weather and got some great seats. Gilbert and Lipsey particularly were unreal defensively and had Shead and Crier uncomfortable all game. That was an elite defensive team ISU faced last night. Tamin, Gilbert, C. Jones and Pavs more than held their own.
50% of the minutes coming back from a tourney game is a lot of minutes in today's college game.
They actually don't have great depth. They really only go 7 deep and Tugler is the only big they use off the bench and he fouls a ton.
I forgot about that Watson one. The other one I remember was a ridiculous moving screen that Houston set at the top of the key
Overall it was pretty well officiated I agree. There were a few pretty bad misses but it's not that big of deal
I will say if I’m a coach and I want to have my team as hungry as possible I would say the same thing. There’s no burden of truth or requirement to congratulate. Those things can work to motivate as well, but the coach is ALWAYS talking to his own team first.
Lipsey had his second straight game of only 1 steal - the only two of the season - but he still leads the country in Defensive Efficiency and is #3 in Steal Rate.
I wish there was a place that tracked "forced turnovers" because Lipsey forces a ton, whether it's balls going out of bounds, travels, taking charges, etc. Him being "off" and in foul trouble was the biggest factor in the OU loss
I wish there was a place that tracked "forced turnovers" because Lipsey forces a ton, whether it's balls going out of bounds, travels, taking charges, etc. Him being "off" and in foul trouble was the biggest factor in the OU loss
With a very different roster than that game almost a year ago in a different season? How are they connected?
Yes I would guess we as fans wouldn't want to see the team have their worst collective performance of the season.
It's absolutely fine to doubt our offensive abilities, but comparing it to last year it is definitely better. BRE24>BRE23, Mom>Grill, Tamin24>Tamin23, Tre24<=23, Gilbert = Gabe. I don't know that our defense is as good, but they sure were as good last night. And I was so impressed with Houston. So much better than a lot of KU teams I've seen with that kind of ranking. Most of the time you feel they get the accolades because of their jersey and their coach/refs. This Houston team is full of studs.
I believe our coaching staff deserves all the credit for our team's success over their 3 years. They have proven that they know more about the game and our team than EVERY poster here. Yes there are some holes, and some tendencies, but I believe they work on those issues everyday and will do their best to get better as they've proven to do. This year we actually have some depth to avoid the rundown our past teams have had. And we match up athletically so much better now than before. But we are still "underdogs" athletically to the top tier teams, but are closing the gap.
So while we can discuss our feelings about this team know that we only know what we see from afar and that we have great kids and coaches.
Go Cyclones!
I believe our coaching staff deserves all the credit for our team's success over their 3 years. They have proven that they know more about the game and our team than EVERY poster here. Yes there are some holes, and some tendencies, but I believe they work on those issues everyday and will do their best to get better as they've proven to do. This year we actually have some depth to avoid the rundown our past teams have had. And we match up athletically so much better now than before. But we are still "underdogs" athletically to the top tier teams, but are closing the gap.
So while we can discuss our feelings about this team know that we only know what we see from afar and that we have great kids and coaches.
Go Cyclones!
He played 18 against OU and 14 last night (with foul trouble). He'll be in the 15-20 minute range all season. I could see maybe up to 25 if Rob is off or in foul trouble, but 15-20 high energy minutes is his sweet spot
Dumb fans think the EXPECTATION is to never have a bad game or lose a game. Thats the GOAL, not the expectation.
