This is on Bowlsby

[swarthmoreCY]

Eat that **** up, but it has very little to do with having a CCG. You think if Ohio State had beat Wisconsin on the last day of the year without having a CCG they would hav been left out? Had Bama been out of the CCG to a 1-loss Ole Miss team do you think they would have missed out?

At best was nothing more than being on the short side of a popularity and public perception contest that the Big 12 has been losing long before it was a 10-team conference (see KSU's repeated snubs and the Big 12's ****** bowl tie ins).

At worst, there was some intentional slighting of the Big 12 by influences that would benefit from the Big 12 thinking it needed to welfare some G5 teams or try to start the attack on the ACC.

 

[ngold74]

I think a championship game would have made a difference and got one of them in. The Big 12 should have picked up Louisville and Cinci. when they got West Virginia and TCU.

 

[TruClone]

Big 12 can't even get it right. "One true champion" and we have co-champs. Nobody to blame but our own conference arrogance.

 

[Stormin]

Note to Big 12. Add 2 very mediocre football programs. Split into North and South Divisions, with the South Division being toughest. Only play 8 conference games amongst the conference teams, that will make MORE Big 12 Conference teams Bowl Eligible. How good the teams are in the conference is irrelevant according to the committee. The criteria is "Bowl Eligible" makes them a good team.

 

[cyclonedave25]

The first mistake by the committee was putting TCU at #3 and FSU at #4 last week. And don't feed me that ******** about teams 3-6 were basically neck and neck. If that were the case then just put TCU at #4. But, the fact that FSU barely beating GT was enough to vault them over TCU is just messed up. I would have a better understanding of the committee's decision if they had TCU at #4 last week and then just flip flopped TCU and OSU this week. Otherwise, their decision making is skeptical.

 

[CycloneErik]

My skepticism about college football, money, and corruption told me this was always going to happen. There's just no way around their preferential treatment for traditional powers and the money they bring.

 

[MartyFine]

Bob Bowlsby didn't select a team for the playoffs that lost at home to 6 win Va Tech team

 

[Skidoosh]

Also, never take a knee, no matter how helpless and pathetic your opponent is.

If the commitee did not put in TCU because they refused to run-up the score on ISU then nothing could've gotten TCU in. It was rigged from the start.

 

[AllInForISU]

no doubt in my mind if we had a big 12 championship we would have a final four candidates

You do realize Baylor vs KSU would have been the conference championship matchup right? If we added the 2 teams necessary and split north south it would have been exactly that matchup.

 

[KnappShack]

You do realize Baylor vs KSU would have been the conference championship matchup right? If we added the 2 teams necessary and split north south it would have been exactly that matchup.

Who says a split needs to be North-South?

 

[Wesley]

The Big 12 hitched its wagon to TCU thinking they were going to get in. Now we look completely stupid for not proclaiming Baylor conference champs because they beat TCU head to head. One true champion my a**, how dumb do we look?

You do not understand. The fix was in all along. B12 is a small footprint compared to the BIG.

 

[AllInForISU]

Who says a split needs to be North-South?

How else do you split it? Nothing else makes sense.

 

[guacamole7]

Quit being stubborn and add two more teams to the conference and have a championship game.

LOL. First step of dealing with adversity, "WHO'S FAULT IS THIS?!!?"

 

[GoClones123]

I can't buy the fact that when the XII came up with this "one true champion" BS they didn't put into the conference by-laws anything about a tie possibility at the end of the season!

Common sense would dictate head to head as the answer. And NO ONE suggested putting this into the XII rules?!?

Horrible

 

[Wesley]

Big 12 can't even get it right. "One true champion" and we have co-champs. Nobody to blame but own conference arrogance

OU getting beat by OSU also had an impact on TCU. So Baylor never caught up to #5 TCU?

 

[Stormin]

You do not understand. The fix was in all along. B12 is a small footprint compared to the BIG.

I agree. The explanation of picking Ohio State over Baylor was that they played a tougher non-conference schedule. Okay. But Ohio State LOST to a freaking 6-6 Va Tech team in their non-conference schedule. Then the committee turns around and totally disregards that the Big Ten is a weak conference, while the Big 12 is the strongest conference in the country.

Absurd.

 

[jdoggivjc]

I can't buy the fact that when the XII came up with this "one true champion" BS they didn't put into the conference by-laws anything about a tie possibility at the end of the season!

Common sense would dictate head to head as the answer. And NO ONE suggested putting this into the XII rules?!?

Horrible

They did - if in the event of a two-way tie, the winner of the head-to-head matchup is the conference champion. Which means Baylor is the conference champion. The problem is, TCU was #3 in the playoff ranking, Baylor was #6. They thought "no way TCU falls from #3", so instead of following conference bylaws and naming Baylor the official conference champion, or going against conference bylaws and naming TCU the official conference champion because they had the higher playoff ranking, they took the gutless way out and didn't name an official conference champion.

 

[KnappShack]

How else do you split it? Nothing else makes sense.

What about college athletics says everything needs to make sense?

A 10 team league called the Big Twelve doesn't make sense either

 

[alarson]

******* A.

This has nothing to do with bowlsby, or a championship game.

This has to do with the fact that ESPN wanted Ohio State and shaped the narrative the last few weeks so that if Ohio State won against an overrated wisconsin, ESPN would get its dream of the big money school over the small brands of TCU or Baylor. They shaped the narrative and the human committee members listened.

If it was UT or OU, the big 12 would be in the playoff.

The fact is the media has no interest in anyone in the big 12 that isnt UT or OU. Its the same reason they were practically cheerleading the conference's breakup, and the same reason that no matter what changes the big 12 makes ESPN will just find another way to shape the narrative against the big 12 if its not UT or OU. This isnt exactly a new phenomenon. Look at the times the big 12 has gotten screwed out of a BCS bowl bid because they were offering a smaller brand than some other teams.

 

[Goothrey]

CFB doesn't have much credibility.

Baylor's wins over TCU and KSU are better wins than anything Ohio State has and they didn't lose to anybody as bad as Virginia Tech.