Basically voted for the charity story. A struggling small time business over vs a guy who graduated with a law degree.
Should be for best survivor player. Ugh.
Should be for best survivor player. Ugh.
You notice Chariie had almost nothing to do with her after that explanation she gave?Maria is a bitter and petty person. Oof.
Maria just feels she's above the rest... she thinks she loves her family more, she thinks when she's wronged it's a bigger deal than when others are wronged, etc. That's why I think she didn't vote for Charlie, because he was the only player she knew was as smart (probably smarter) as her and played as strategic a game as she did, she didn't want to admit that he got the better of her. He was her #1 partner the entire game, she tried stabbing him in the back and it backfired, he forgave her, then she votes for Kenzie based on her life story. Self-centered b*tch.You notice Chariie had almost nothing to do with her after that explanation she gave?
Going into the final four we thought Charlie would take it. We knew neither Ben nor Liz would get votes. But after Kenzie built fire, and Charlie said he didn't need to prove himself by making fire...yeah, we both switched straight over to Kenzie.
Ben thinking Liz was a challenge (and Liz taking it to new heights) only proved they were both delusional about Liz's contributions. We both thought he should have taken Liz, and made Kenzie & Charlie do the fire fight. That way, at least he might have had a vote or two from any juror who didn't like either Kenzie or Charlie.
Lost all respect for Maria tonight too. It was kind of wrong (to me) for Liz to go run down the plank for Kenzie and help her solve the puzzle. I really hope that doesn't become a new trend. But Maria is not very good at hiding her true feelings, and whoever it was upthread that said she was petty absolutely nailed it.
Agreed, I think she may have started to realize that Charlie played a better game than her and Charlie may have even used her a little versus her using him but her ego couldn’t admit that so she had to vote for Kenzie.Maria just feels she's above the rest... she thinks she loves her family more, she thinks when she's wronged it's a bigger deal than when others are wronged, etc. That's why I think she didn't vote for Charlie, because he was the only player she knew was as smart (probably smarter) as her and played as strategic a game as she did, she didn't want to admit that he got the better of her. He was her #1 partner the entire game, she tried stabbing him in the back and it backfired, he forgave her, then she votes for Kenzie based on her life story. Self-centered b*tch.
In my comment above where I said we "switched to Kenzie" after the firemaking, that was exactly what I was talking about. We didn't think Kenzie should win, we just knew that the jury would vote for her over Charlie after that...and after a couple of Charlie's answers during the Q&A from the jury.I wish winning the final four firemaking would stop swaying jury voters so much, UNLESS the person who wins volunteered themselves to do it. If you were forced to make fire and happened to be the one to win (against a weak opponent) then that would not impress me.
Kenzie is a good person and had a nice social game, but at least by the edit, Charlie would have been the more deserving winner IMO.
Yeah, her winning wasn't crazy by any means. The answer to Q's question about what they'd do with the money sealed it for her, I think. Her answer was more compelling than Charlie's.In my comment above where I said we "switched to Kenzie" after the firemaking, that was exactly what I was talking about. We didn't think Kenzie should win, we just knew that the jury would vote for her over Charlie after that...and after a couple of Charlie's answers during the Q&A from the jury.
Finished watching the aftershow and am more frustrated with the jury vote than I was before watching that. I guess it doesn't matter how well you played the game it's how you are going to use the money and other factors not related to how you played the game? You could tell Charlie was in disbelief but he took the high road and did not take away the moment from Kensie. Just further proves how dumb this cast was. The player who played the game the best and was most deserving to win lost it because Q's last question apparently was the deciding factor and it had nothing to do with how they played the game. I'm guessing if it was a 4-4 tie Ben would have been the tiebreaker and given how strange the voting went I have no idea which one he would have voted as he had pretty good friendships with both all season.
Will have to dig around and see if any players did interviews after the finale aired. Would be interesting if Charlie and Maria had a heart to heart as if that was me and the player I had played lockstep with all game backstabbed me like that I'd be pissed. My opinion of Maria changed drastically near the end of this season. She probably would have won had she made it to the final 3 but as soon as they were smart enough to vote her out at 5 she got kind of petty about how everyone targeted her. Any fan of the show knows that most years the strongest player doesn't always make it to the end and she was that player this season.
He made some video where he was singing in the shower with clothes on, directed towards Maria. I didn't watch it, I guess it wasn't serious but who knows. I don't understand why these casts all become best friends after. You spent 3 weeks or less with these people.Major props to Charlie because after vote was revealed if it was me I would just want to walk as far away from the majority of this group of people.
Ben already came out and said he would have voted for Charlie.Finished watching the aftershow and am more frustrated with the jury vote than I was before watching that. I guess it doesn't matter how well you played the game it's how you are going to use the money and other factors not related to how you played the game? You could tell Charlie was in disbelief but he took the high road and did not take away the moment from Kensie. Just further proves how dumb this cast was. The player who played the game the best and was most deserving to win lost it because Q's last question apparently was the deciding factor and it had nothing to do with how they played the game. I'm guessing if it was a 4-4 tie Ben would have been the tiebreaker and given how strange the voting went I have no idea which one he would have voted as he had pretty good friendships with both all season.
Will have to dig around and see if any players did interviews after the finale aired. Would be interesting if Charlie and Maria had a heart to heart as if that was me and the player I had played lockstep with all game backstabbed me like that I'd be pissed. My opinion of Maria changed drastically near the end of this season. She probably would have won had she made it to the final 3 but as soon as they were smart enough to vote her out at 5 she got kind of petty about how everyone targeted her. Any fan of the show knows that most years the strongest player doesn't always make it to the end and she was that player this season.
It makes me question if some of these players truly are big fans of Survivor like they claim because a true fan of the show would have some integrity to reward the person who played the best game not the person who you feel needs the money the most. Charlie clearly outplayed Ben and Kensey. It also makes me wonder what was being discussed by the jury at Ponderosa leading up to the final vote. Saw an interview Charlie did and he kind of alluded to hearing about some things that happened at Ponderosa that may have factored into how the vote went too.Ben already came out and said he would have voted for Charlie.
Last night made me mad. I don't care if someone has a million dollars. If they played the best game I would vote for them.