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I went to a St. Louis cardinal game and a local told me a speed trap to watch as we entered a new suburb on the interstate and that much of their income comes from that. I think they drop the speed from like 60 mph to 45 or 50.
 

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For the last 15 years or so I've had to drop down from 74mph to 69mph for roughly 1/4 mile on my way to work to avoid those cameras.

Every day that costs me .881 seconds if I drop my speed from 74 to 69 for 1/4 mile.

If those cameras have been in place for 15 years, and I've worked 3,900 days, the city of Des Moines owes me 57 minutes.

I decided to say F the man and drive 74.2 mph the rest of the way on 235 and it saves 1.3 seconds.....so I can arrive at 5:49am to work
 

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A county in Missouri has a wine trail and a cop who pulls you over and tries to get an OWI charge. I saw him behind me and I was going 45 in the hills and corners. He pulled me over and acted disappointed that me and my wife was coming back from KFC.
 
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BS, look at I-35 through Ankeny, its 65 mph through that area and the average vehicle is going 70 or more. Every time we are through there, they have the HW Patrol out issuing tickets. How about raising the speed limit up and stop trying to milk the drivers out of fines.

At 65 mph speed limit, tickets do not get issued until 76 mph. Those traveling 70 mph need not worry about cameras.

If you raise the speed limit to 70, the average speed will be 75. It isn’t about the actual speed, it’s about the desire to be going faster than the car next to you. Someone will always want to be going 5 more than the speed of traffic.
 

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They give you all the information you need right there as you're driving, just pick the speed that aligns with your own risk/reward tolerance, drive, and don't be a little baby about it. For me, 5-7 over means I don't have to worry if I see a cop and is "fast enough".
 
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At 65 mph speed limit, tickets do not get issued until 76 mph. Those traveling 70 mph need not worry about cameras.

If you raise the speed limit to 70, the average speed will be 75. It isn’t about the actual speed, it’s about the desire to be going faster than the car next to you. Someone will always want to be going 5 more than the speed of traffic.
I think this is somewhat true up to a certain speed. I usually drive 79mph on 70mph highways in Iowa. When I've drive in South Dakota on 80mph highways, I stayed pretty close to 80mph. When I drove on the autobahn, where there are some sections without speed limits, I probably averaged around 90. A lot of it depends on the cars around me and the conditions. I slow down a lot at night and in the rain/snow I'm very slow. I just feel like on 35 north of Ames, with very little traffic, in 2024 70mph is too slow.
 

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For the last 15 years or so I've had to drop down from 74mph to 69mph for roughly 1/4 mile on my way to work to avoid those cameras.

Every day that costs me .881 seconds if I drop my speed from 74 to 69 for 1/4 mile.

If those cameras have been in place for 15 years, and I've worked 3,900 days, the city of Des Moines owes me 57 minutes.

I decided to say F the man and drive 74.2 mph the rest of the way on 235 and it saves 1.3 seconds.....so I can arrive at 5:49am to work
Did you forget a jimlad?
 
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I think this is somewhat true up to a certain speed. I usually drive 79mph on 70mph highways in Iowa. When I've drive in South Dakota on 80mph highways, I stayed pretty close to 80mph. When I drove on the autobahn, where there are some sections without speed limits, I probably averaged around 90. A lot of it depends on the cars around me and the conditions. I slow down a lot at night and in the rain/snow I'm very slow. I just feel like on 35 north of Ames, with very little traffic, in 2024 70mph is too slow.

You’ll need to talk to your state representatives to get this changed. That’s more than just a DOT study to determine the appropriate speed limit for that stretch of road.
 
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I hate these too, but there is a reason they are out there. People refuse to slow down.

My town is talking about putting them up. Because people refuse to slow down.

The State is in the process of reworking Hwy 141. Closing all the crossovers, closing all the at grade crossings, forcing people to go miles out of their way to get on 141 in the direction they want. They have the speed planes in the air constantly over it. They want to add speed cameras on it. Why? Because people refuse to slow down. They have said since people refuse to go even less than 10 over in the areas that are 55mph, then they will close every crossing they can and make it a limited access freeway.

Everyone is pissed they are closing all the access points, but they are also sick of the accidents at all the crossings because people want to run 80mph in a 55.

We are our own worst enemies.

Are cameras money makers? Absolutely. But why? All you have to do is go less than 10MPH over the speed limit and they get nothing. Cruise control works great. And its not like 95% of people dont know where every camera is.
 

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You’ll need to talk to your state representatives to get this changed. That’s more than just a DOT study to determine the appropriate speed limit for that stretch of road.
I’m old enough to remember when the speed limit was 70 almost everywhere, including narrow, winding two-lane roads with gutters on the edges. Hard to believe I survived riding around with my parents back then, especially in the bed of the pickup truck.
 

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They give you all the information you need right there as you're driving, just pick the speed that aligns with your own risk/reward tolerance, drive, and don't be a little baby about it. For me, 5-7 over means I don't have to worry if I see a cop and is "fast enough".
Unless you're driving huge distances the difference between arriving while driving 73 versus 85+ is like 3 minutes. Most of which gets pissed away the moment you get off at your exit ramp and hit a red light.
 
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I went to a St. Louis cardinal game and a local told me a speed trap to watch as we entered a new suburb on the interstate and that much of their income comes from that. I think they drop the speed from like 60 mph to 45 or 50.
Which suburb is that, we travel through St. Louis a lot on our way to S. Carolina?
 

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I’m old enough to remember when the speed limit was 70 almost everywhere, including narrow, winding two-lane roads with gutters on the edges. Hard to believe I survived riding around with my parents back then, especially in the bed of the pickup truck.
Does that explain the early silver hair? :mccaffery:
 
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Its on that stretch, people come around the curve heading west and before they know it, its down to 35 and they have you. The only worse that this one, is in What Cheer, where they sit at the bottom of the hill and as you drop down it going north, they nail you as you hit the city limits.
There’s one like this in the town of Elizabeth, Illinois too (East of Galena). Steep hill coming into town if you’re traveling west and the speed limit is dropping as you come down the hill.
 

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There’s one like this in the town of Elizabeth, Illinois too (East of Galena). Steep hill coming into town if you’re traveling west and the speed limit is dropping as you come down the hill.
Brakes not work?

 

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That brings up what at least I believe is an interesting aspect of these as clearly the CR ones that most people hate are on 380. If the city is not allowed to enforce the laws in a manner they see fit on a road going through their city does that mean it falls solely on the ISP? If accidents happen due to high speed and other bad driving behaviors that put a strain on other city resources (Fire/EMS) where does the line get drawn?

The CR ones on 380 are at places where speed has been a danger in the past. Further, this area is dangerous if not impossible for LEOs to safely execute a traffic stop without endangering themselves or other motorists. I don't like the premise of the cameras and there absolutely is a financial aspect to them but every instance is not equal.
As I read it those or at least some of them were approved by the DOT. Presumably for the reasons you elaborate.
Prairie City and Webster City are much more rural and not in what appears to be areas at high risk. They appear to be mostly placed to generate revenue. Presumably that’s why DOT rejected those.