Mediocre....I wish we were Mediocre. I would whole heartedly accept Mediocre right now.
Pollard Addresses MBB
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Mediocre....I wish we were Mediocre. I would whole heartedly accept Mediocre right now.
Sorry... apathy filled basketball
Better?
Yep. Sad state of affairs. But it's the kids fault.
You could be seen as arrogant from your daily posts as well. Alot of judgements can be made cant they?
No, he is suggesting putting your money where your mouth is. Have questions? Put them to the source. What are you afraid of? If you do so respectfully and you get them answered, great! If do so respectfully and you get nothing satisfactory back you have a lot more material to ***** about on here so it is a win/win!
Totally agree. It's a generational thing. Every older generation will always say that the younger generation is corrupt and immoral and has a poor work ethic. One poster here said that we are all lazy because people use riding mowers to mow their lawns! Here's a thought: as technology increases and things that make life easier like riding lawn mowers become available cheaper people will always use them. Why intentionally make life harder on yourself?
Things are different today. We don't have to use push mowers if we don't want to. It doesn't mean we are lazy, it means life is better now. There's a lot of disparaging remarks out there about our "instant gratification" society. What "you" need to understand is that in a lot of ways, that's how the world works now. If I can get what I want now, why should I wait a week or a year? What "we" need to understand is that not everything is about "instant gratification" and in some cases the quick answer isn't the right answer.
The point of my post was that losing doesn't explain it all, since WBB is having its own issues and they've been successful.
I think you're right that the problem most people on this board have with the MBB team is that they're losing, not the transfers. But you have to pull in Kentucky type recruits to be able to weather the transfers we've dealt with recently in MBB and still win. I really don't think it is very likely that we'll ever pull in those types of recruits.
Had to post in this thread what I put in the email JP thread:
I seriously cannot really care about ISU bball much anymore. I hate that, but it is the truth. And each passing day, I doubt our AD just a little more. It isn't that hard to have your finger on the pulse of Ames, Iowa.
Take an unbiased look over the last several years, and all of a sudden you see some huge problems. Kindler leaves. Cael leaves. Chiz gets an extension after going 5-19 over 2 years. McD has a ridiculous contract that seems like a 9 year deal, or we are operating under a new deal that supposedly nobody knows about. Apparently running the ISU center was not in the AD's best interest.
Once you put down the Kool-aid, you start to realize that maybe we should have 2 positions opening up at ISU, at least in the next year. Sorry but I am not impressed that revenues went up by forcing people to contribute way more money just to keep their seats for football. Yes, I agree with the move, and it was long overdue, but let's not pretend like the guy invented the wheel.
I was a huge JP guy too, but he lost me over the last year or so also. And let's not forget, didn't we try to copycat "jump around" at the start of the 4th quarter like Wisconsin does? That was weak sauce.
Take a step back people. I am now of the opinion that 2 replacements need to be made at ISU. JP and McD. There is no accountability at all by either of them for what has become of our men's bball program. The flagship one, as labelled by JP.
If it is about money, that falls squarely on JP for not being smart enough to have a rainy day fund to replace any coach at any time if necessary. If he is as amazing with money as everyone claims, why does it come down to us not being able to afford to fix our problems?
I seriously cannot really care about ISU bball much anymore. I hate that, but it is the truth. And each passing day, I doubt our AD just a little more. It isn't that hard to have your finger on the pulse of Ames, Iowa.
Take an unbiased look over the last several years, and all of a sudden you see some huge problems. Kindler leaves. Cael leaves. Chiz gets an extension after going 5-19 over 2 years. McD has a ridiculous contract that seems like a 9 year deal, or we are operating under a new deal that supposedly nobody knows about. Apparently running the ISU center was not in the AD's best interest.
Once you put down the Kool-aid, you start to realize that maybe we should have 2 positions opening up at ISU, at least in the next year. Sorry but I am not impressed that revenues went up by forcing people to contribute way more money just to keep their seats for football. Yes, I agree with the move, and it was long overdue, but let's not pretend like the guy invented the wheel.
I was a huge JP guy too, but he lost me over the last year or so also. And let's not forget, didn't we try to copycat "jump around" at the start of the 4th quarter like Wisconsin does? That was weak sauce.
Take a step back people. I am now of the opinion that 2 replacements need to be made at ISU. JP and McD. There is no accountability at all by either of them for what has become of our men's bball program. The flagship one, as labelled by JP.
If it is about money, that falls squarely on JP for not being smart enough to have a rainy day fund to replace any coach at any time if necessary. If he is as amazing with money as everyone claims, why does it come down to us not being able to afford to fix our problems?
Most don't expect to win like Kentucky. Hell finish in the top half of the B12 would make most happy. If we could do that we would have a winning record and show some signs of life. Right now ISU bball is a gelding with a broken leg while the rest of the B12 is coming with a shotgun to put us down.
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Exactly. That is the biggest reason why bringing in Fennelly and WBB is such a lame CYA. Last I looked, WBB is winning. Other schools that include these 500+ transfer kids are winning.
We used to talk about whether Floyd was "running off kids". Recruiting over your players is the goal every year. That will cause turnover. Losing is the real issue here. JP is just throwing up BS that many are swallowing.
Our turnover is (a) much higher than any other school, (b) includes staff and assistants this year, (c) includes starters at much higher levels than any other school. The problem is elsewhere.
Hilarious that we may be holding a scholarship for a potential transfer and SC is one of our best returning players. Why would JP and GM want these no good quitters on the team?
CycloneErik
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You're moving past reasonable here. Our budget situation is the best its been, but that doesn't mean that we're going to have money set apart to replace any coach at any time. Get real.
Dear God. If Jamie Pollard is fired, then we might have some REAL problems. I'm getting really concerned with some people in our fan base when they want to fire the guy that has raised athletic department revenue, improved facilities, and improved the athletic department's success as a whole. Yeah, things aren't going well for MBB right now. But I see that as more of an anomaly than as the norm...
damn right it is
I get that argument, but if the AD is doing so well how come we don't have enough money to get rid of this horrible, horrible basketball coach in what is supposed to be our "flag ship" sport.
I agree with a lot of what you said, but I have a few comments.
JP might not have done anything earth-shattering to increase the athletics budget, but he was the first one who had the guts to try. And he has succeeded in nearly doubling the athletics budget, all while the country is in a deep recession. I don't think it makes sense to discount this accomplishment so easily.
He has certainly had some problems hiring coaches, but if you look around our athletics department right now the only team that really seems to have any serious problems right now is MBB. He may have made mistakes in the past, but everything else looks to be headed in the right direction. I don't think it makes sense to roast JP for the current failure of one of many sports he is in control of.
As far as the money situation goes, there's 2 things you can do with income. Save it for a rainy day, or reinvest it in improvements. There are so many things that needed improving around the ISU athletics department, I can't fault JP for focusing on those at the expense of a "firing fund".
JP is not without fault. I'm not liking the tone of the messages that have been coming out of the athletics department as of late. He really has gone on the defensive, and that isn't good for ISU. But IMO, the improvements he's made to ISU athletics far, far outweighs any negatives he's brought thus far.
In reading this....get ready for at least 3 more years of horrible basketball. We can go 9-whatev next season....and Greggy will still have this job. Just makes me sick that all the blame is going on the athletes. And NOTHING has been on coach.
This guy needs to be a father figure for these young men and a mentor as a coach...when they quit on you have failed in some category or another... I just can't believe that JP and GM are DESTROYING a once proud ISU Basketball Program.
I just can't see this justified by JP since he pulled the plug on Morgan so fast.....just outragious that GM....who is failing at his job miserably.....gets to keep this high-profile of a job.
Please step in Geoffrey. Please. You must see how this is tearing a big hole in Cyclone Country. Enough with the negative press.....time for a new coach....and possibly a new AD.
This guy needs to be a father figure for these young men and a mentor as a coach...when they quit on you have failed in some category or another... I just can't believe that JP and GM are DESTROYING a once proud ISU Basketball Program.
I just can't see this justified by JP since he pulled the plug on Morgan so fast.....just outragious that GM....who is failing at his job miserably.....gets to keep this high-profile of a job.
Please step in Geoffrey. Please. You must see how this is tearing a big hole in Cyclone Country. Enough with the negative press.....time for a new coach....and possibly a new AD.
