Pollard Addresses MBB
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I use this guy. 60" deck, 25 hp engine. Mow at 8 mph. And all I have is a lot and a half. I do share it with my dad who has 4 lots. Chew on that.
I was joking. And I work for John Deere so much respect on that decision. Great machine.
That is not correct. I believe JP has even said as much. And if indeed we don't, well that just makes JP look worse, actually. Getting into a very long term contract you cannot get out of is a horrible business strategy. You should always have an exit strategy.
We will lose more next year in ticket sales than we will save in waiting out the contract. The only theory I buy is that JP didn't like any of the potential replacements. Which is weak, because it is always a crapshoot anyhow.
Funny how quickly JP pulled the trigger on Danny Mac and Wayne Morgan, but for McDermott we hear a lot of excuses! It all comes down to the fact that he hired McDermott and firing him would reflect poorly on him...
It's not just the attrition! It is the fact that GMac has not shown at all that he can win in the Big 12.....not even when he has Big 12 talent! There is not a single shred of evidence that he is capable of that. It's what comes out about how he handles players.
Also, the excuse that it is happening everywhere is nonsense. What other team had a starting all-conference player leave their team after 2 years and transfer to another school, sit out a year, and then become a lottery pick? What other team had a starting player leave in the middle of the season to go play pro ball in Europe, and lie about the reason as to why he had to leave then? What other team has had a starter leave with the excuse that he supposedly wants to play "closer to home" and then accepts an offer at a school that is much further away from his home?
Don't kid yourself......the types of problems ISU has had are unique. WJ, Ham, and Lucca did not leave because they were not getting enough playing time, or they were thinking that ISU was not their path to the NBA. Wake up!
It doesn't. I'll defer to vmbplayer on this.. probably said it the best of any post in here.
Well, crap I guess I'd might as well just quit my job so I can free them of my lazy dead weight. Thanks for letting me know though
.It just surprises me how much people on here were saying that anyone 25 and younger is a spoiled, entitled brat. You may have run into a few bad apples, but by and large we are not spoiled. We may feel "entitled" to certain things that are normal to have in this day and age in the same way that the older generation feels "entitled" to electricity when for their parents electricity was a special privilege. The older generation might feel they deserve a job if they work hard, when the generation that grew up during the great depression knew that even hard work was often not enough to secure a job and people entering the workforce today know that they have to leverage to get the most they can out of the position and if they can't get what they want that they should walk away and find a new job. It's all relative, young people grow up and adapt to the circumstances around them.
I use this guy. 60" deck, 25 hp engine. Mow at 8 mph. And all I have is a lot and a half. I do share it with my dad who has 4 lots. Chew on that.
lazy ******
I keep hearing from JP worshipers (employees) how we can't get rid of JP because he's raised so much money. Revenues have mainly gone up because JP has made us fans pay a lot more for a lot less. Doesn't take a genius to raise ticket prices and required donations, and as a result we've got terrible basketball for 4 years and lousy football for 3 of the last 4. Most a.d.s would be on the hotseat, and if JP isn't, Geoffrey's job needs to be on the line.
I would say that the problem isn't so much that kids are more entitled or lazy now than ever before, but that society lets them stay kids longer. I think there's a lot of evidence out there that people just don't grow up emotionally or intellectually as fast as they used to. And I'm not throwing the blame around, I have been as guilty of that as anyone else.
I respect JP. I think he has done a tremendous job in very difficult economic circumstances in raising funds and building our Athletic Dept budget. He has been the driving force behind some much needed upgrades in our athletic facilities and the building of a new basketball practice facility for the men's and women's programs. I give him a great amount of credit for this. While I agree that there are some improvements that still need to be made as far as the facilities go I think he has really done about as much as he can to this point. At this time he can only raise so much funding in an effort to help us recruit and compete with other Big XII programs.
Now it is time for our programs to step up to the plate and start showing some results. CPR and the football team have stepped up, BF and the women's basketball program have stepped up and have been for the last decade, KJ and the wrestling program are still stepping up and have been forever, and CJ and the volleyball program have stepped up and are doing great things. As you can see while the majority of our programs are stepping up one major program is not. Unfortunately for JP it is hard to continue asking for donations etc... based on the poor results of one program and that is just the way it is. Overall he has done a very good job. I was a little frustrated with his handling of the Matt Rainey email and with GMAC. It seems like he is the type of guy that isn't used to failing or having his hands on something that has failed like the men's bball program. Right now it seems like he is in denial of what is going on and is searching for any excuse he can find to avoid owning this failure. That is understandable.
While I hate to see the program sinking to such miserable low, we know this situation isn't going to get any better with GMAC at the helm. I fully believe that JP has a full understanding of the fact that after next season he will have no choice but to send GMAC packing because we will fail next season. It is a certainty. The laundry list of excuses for keeping GMAC will have run it's course and we will still be left in the same position at the end of next season.... the cellar of the Big XII. JP is a business man and he knows that when you **** off your customers long enough with an inferior product they will not only stop buying it but they will also stop buying the other higher quality products you have. After next season.... the GMAC experiment will be over for good. Bank on it.
I do think that JP has done a great job financially thus far in his tenure. I also think he's made some very big mistakes from a coaching standpoint.
I'll comment mainly on MBB and FB as those are the two programs that count (and generate revenue). He's destroyed our MBB program with the hire and his allegiance to Greg.
Like a blind squirrel finding a nut, CPR has fallen into his lap and appears to be a great hire. His DMac/GC mistake looks like it will turn out well, but what happens to revenue if CPR isn't able to improve our standing in FB?
That is entirely possible as I think you can be a good coach and it still might not look like it if you're at a program like ISU.
We have a nightmare schedule coming up and I could easily see the next two years being very rough in FB.
Where would we stand then? A MBB program that is in shambles and a FB program that isn't doing too hot either.
I'll comment mainly on MBB and FB as those are the two programs that count (and generate revenue). He's destroyed our MBB program with the hire and his allegiance to Greg.
Like a blind squirrel finding a nut, CPR has fallen into his lap and appears to be a great hire. His DMac/GC mistake looks like it will turn out well, but what happens to revenue if CPR isn't able to improve our standing in FB?
That is entirely possible as I think you can be a good coach and it still might not look like it if you're at a program like ISU.
We have a nightmare schedule coming up and I could easily see the next two years being very rough in FB.
Where would we stand then? A MBB program that is in shambles and a FB program that isn't doing too hot either.
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I agree. The prospects are scary of what could happen if football under CPR falls on some hard times. I can't say that I think it will though. CPR has showed me that he is the man for the job. Sure we had our struggles but those kids on the field were out there to compete. The Nebraska game is the greatest example of that. Our kids didn't have as much size as Nebraska, we didn't have as much speed as Nebraska, and we didn't have as much talent overall on the field as Nebraska.... What we did have was a football team that wanted that game more then Nebraska and they did everything they could possibly do to win that football game. Nebraska was not able to beat us because they couldn't match the heart, desire to win, and sheer effort that ISU showed on that field. I think ISU is going to have a solid season this year and these things listed above are the reason why.
I don't envy JP... It isn't easy to find coaches that are a good fit at ISU. We may have lucked out and hit a home run with CPR and that is fine. I will take it. But in the ultra competitive conference we are in we can't sit around with a coach that isn't cutting it and wait 5 years before making a move. 5 years of a down program will take 5 years or longer to build back up because each year you regress you just keep falling further and further behind the programs that are improving.
I am sick of McD, JP, and their appologists trying to turn this around on the kids. Mcd is the head coach he is paid to win games. He is paid to recruit. He is paid to manage the players. It is not like we are getting all of these high profile recruits who are planning on going to the NBA after a year or two. SO we don't have the biggest prima donas. Even if we did have a them it is McD's job to make them into a team and manage them. That is what good coaches do. Look at Calipari or Self or other similar coaches. These guys get players with huge egos and make it work. You think John Wall's first priority was the team when he came in? No, he knew he was going to the NBA but he got those guys to play together and win a lot of games. And you can't just say that the players we have are babies who don't like tough coaching. Huggins, Martin, Izzo, these guys are tough and they don't have the same problem. And you can't say "look there are transfers all over" because we are way above the average. I just laughed when JP said that we weren't the only ones with transfers. He thinks we are all stupid and can't see for ourselves that problem is the coach. Im sick of excuses. Even assuming that the landscape of college basketball has changed it doesn't excuse McD because everyone else is on the same playing field. It is not like he is the only coach that has to deal with players with and ego or players.
Honestly, BF has lost his entire recruiting class for last year as well from a team which has been deep in the dance for several years. I can understand the argument and definitely think it has some weight. There have been a startling number of transfers the last couple years in all of CBB. If the coaches are the same and the fans are the same, by elimination it has to be the students or the parents.
