ISU vs. Iowa Post Game Thread

[CLONE2THEBONE]

Iowa's leading scorer didn't play tonight...

We suck and suck horribly.

Keep in mind that Iowa is not a great team by any stretch, but they toyed with us.

Greg's in over his head and the fact that he never even won a conference title in the MVC makes what's happening less than surprising.

Lick outcoached Mac in every facet. I firmly believe we have better talent, yet we weren't even close.

I hate the fact that I can't quit ISU athletics. Maybe I'll come around.

 

[Drive4cy]

Re: Iowa's leading scorer didn't play tonight...

Well, I'm concerned but I haven't given up on McDermott. It's troubling that Phelps ate his lunch earlier in the week and now Lick last night. I'm not sure we have more talent than Iowa, but it's certainly similar and you're right, they did toy with us.

 

[CLONE2THEBONE]

Re: Iowa's leading scorer didn't play tonight...

Well, I'm concerned but I haven't given up on McDermott. It's troubling that Phelps ate his lunch earlier in the week and now Lick last night. I'm not sure we have more talent than Iowa, but it's certainly similar and you're right, they did toy with us.

I don't know how much more there is to see.

There's a reason that Iowa's coach won Coach of the Year and there's a reason that our coach finished 4th in the MVC when favored to win it.

 

[MontyBurns]

Re: Iowa's leading scorer didn't play tonight...

There's a reason that Iowa's coach won Coach of the Year and there's a reason that our coach finished 4th in the MVC when favored to win it.

Lickliter is 53. McDermott is 44. He's a young coach and he has a very young team that is struggling on the road. If you want to argue that Iowa is also young, they are, but not in the matchup of Tate (Senior) vs. Brackins (Sophomore) which was the biggest one in deciding the outcome of the game. Give Greg a chance, this team will be better in February than they are now, and they'll be much better next year than this year.

 

[Wesley]

Re: Iowa's leading scorer didn't play tonight...

Lickliter is 53. McDermott is 44. He's a young coach and he has a very young team that is struggling on the road. If you want to argue that Iowa is also young, they are, but not in the matchup of Tate (Senior) vs. Brackins (Sophomore) which was the biggest one in deciding the outcome of the game. Give Greg a chance, this team will be better in February than they are now, and they'll be much better next year than this year.

 

[cytheguy]

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After watching the game last night, I just have a feeling that Lickliter is going to do some good, not great, things at Iowa. Similar to Tom Davis. His young squad manhandled ISU in almost every phase of the game. That's coaching.

 

[clintr]

Re: Iowa's leading scorer didn't play tonight...

Still comes down to player retainage. If he can keep players from year to year I think we'll be much better off. If he loses three players like years past, we'll be back to the bottom yet again.

 

[HandSanitizer]

Re: Iowa's leading scorer didn't play tonight...

Last nights game was the easiest 300K credits I have ever gotten.

 

[ISUChippewa]

Re: Iowa's leading scorer didn't play tonight...

A disappointing loss, considering we were down by only two at halftime, but I'm not ready to give up on McDermott yet. Remember guys! There ARE VALID REASONS WHY MOST COLLEGE BASKETBALL EXPERTS PICKED US TO FINISH AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LEAGUE. We win six games against mediocre competition and we're supposed to be world beaters? Give me a break.

Did anybody see McDermott's comments in the Register article today? Didn't sound like a very happy man. I would not want to be a ISU basketball player the next few days. I have a feeling they are going to be familiar with suicide drills.

 

[CyPride]

Re: Iowa's leading scorer didn't play tonight...

Lickliter is 53. McDermott is 44. He's a young coach and he has a very young team that is struggling on the road. If you want to argue that Iowa is also young, they are, but not in the matchup of Tate (Senior) vs. Brackins (Sophomore) which was the biggest one in deciding the outcome of the game. Give Greg a chance, this team will be better in February than they are now, and they'll be much better next year than this year.

Monty, I love ya, but Iowa's best scorer is a true freshman, and he didn't play. Best two scorers from last night are 1st year players in Lickliters system. Gatens, Fuller - true freshman. Peterson - sophomore. Beyond Cole, they have two jucos who haven't done much before tonight and are in their 1st year in his system, one sophomore, and the rest true freshmen. Their coach has been here one full year less than our coach - big % difference when you look at their short tenure. Iowa has lost players too, don't forget that.

We looked awful, both on offense and defense last night. Iowa didn't look awful. Please don't say that is because we are young. We are definitely more experienced than Iowa in nearly every position.

Their guards tore us apart, and we are a guard team!?

 

[nj829]

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We are a guard team, but we have no one inside that can play defense and rebound. They killed us in the paint, and nobody could stop them. Same thing with Drake, nobody could play down low or rebound, and another loss. Tate for them schooled Brackins I thought, and unless Brackins wants to play with Stinson in the NBADL, I see him here all 4 years at this point.

 

[everyyard]

Re: Iowa's leading scorer didn't play tonight...

Lickliter is 53. McDermott is 44. He's a young coach and he has a very young team that is struggling on the road. If you want to argue that Iowa is also young, they are, but not in the matchup of Tate (Senior) vs. Brackins (Sophomore) which was the biggest one in deciding the outcome of the game. Give Greg a chance, this team will be better in February than they are now, and they'll be much better next year than this year.

we lost to drake...he is struggling everywhere.

 

[cybsball20]

Re: Iowa's leading scorer didn't play tonight...

Iowa's guards getting in to the teeth of the defense whenever they wanted played a much bigger role than the Brackins v. Tate matchup. Don't forget, Brackins didn't do a whole lot when he had a freshman and sophmore guarding him either...

 

[Oldgeezer]

Garrett is horrible!! He makes STUPID drives to the basket where he does not beat his guy but keeps his guy on his hip. Then the double team comes and he just keeps dribbling in one place until someone pokes the ball away from him. The only assists DG gets are passing it to a shooter outside that is open. He makes terrible entry passes to WAY out of position Brakins. DG makes some the of WORST decisions that I have seen on the court. This team can not function with him at the point.

I have to read 113 posts before someone points out the obvious. Garrett and Brakins, the 2 most talented players on the team are also the most ineffective, inept and unfocused. Garrett doesn't have the outside shot to be a 2 guard, nor the passing-penetrating ability to play PG. He can usually beat his man off the dribble but is so afraid of contact he ends up shooting a fade or a layup 10 ft. from the basket. He doesn't make good decisions either passing or driving into traffic. In other words, give Buckley the ball and let him learn by doing. Throwing the ball to Brakins is like a black hole. Either a forced shot or a turn over, and no change in this trend in 9 games. At the start of this season, I thought success would depend on Brakins learning to play low post and kick out to Staiger/Eikmeier/Peterson and Buckley beating out Garret at PG. So far that is not happening.

 

[BryceC]

I'm with you Mustang. Nothing broken, no arguments (at least not because of BB). Apathy. Complete, utter, total apathy. The house that Johnny, Tim, and LE built has collapsed.

People around here get annoyed at the meltdowns...I think we'll see over the next 5 home games against crappy teams what the opposite of meltdowns look like. Empty seats and a lifeless Hilton.

Lickliter is 52. McDermott is 44. He's a young coach and he has a very young team that is struggling on the road. If you want to argue that Iowa is also young, they are, but not in the matchup of Tate (Senior) vs. Brackins (Sophomore) which was the biggest one in deciding the outcome of the game. Give Greg a chance, this team will be better in February than they are now, and they'll be much better next year than this year.

Is it 2006? Because I read the same stuff after the Iowa game then.

 

[kingcy]

I have to read 113 posts before someone points out the obvious. Garrett and Brakins, the 2 most talented players on the team are also the most ineffective, inept and unfocused. Garrett doesn't have the outside shot to be a 2 guard, nor the passing-penetrating ability to play PG. He can usually beat his man off the dribble but is so afraid of contact he ends up shooting a fade or a layup 10 ft. from the basket. He doesn't make good decisions either passing or driving into traffic. In other words, give Buckley the ball and let him learn by doing. Throwing the ball to Brakins is like a black hole. Either a forced shot or a turn over, and no change in this trend in 9 games. At the start of this season, I thought success would depend on Brakins learning to play low post and kick out to Staiger/Eikmeier/Peterson and Buckley beating out Garret at PG. So far that is not happening.

Spot on. This team is lacking something and I think is it a true leader. BP does a good job leading at times, but he doesnt have the abality to take over when times get tough. He takes a lot of crap here but where would this team be without him. DG can be at times but he forces too much at times. DG and CB dont let the game come to them. Lucca is a shooting freak but doesnt get the touches he needs. There are some players on this team that play now that shouldnt be seeing the court, IMO.

 

[CYNWIA]

i tore up the rest of my season tickets... no joke

 

[Aclone]

I hope the "meltdown" part is over here, because I wanted to post an observation from last night's game.

Brackins takes the ball inside, is bodied repeatedly by Tate so that the shot goes wildly awry, no foul.

Garrett goes to the hole, is bumped all the way there, his shot goes awry because he's bodied, no foul.

An Iowa guard drives to the hole, the Cyclone defender more or less wtches him go--foul, basket counts and a free throw.

I saw this again and again and again last night, and it was the second game in a row. Someone posted days before the game that Brackins would accumulate "phantom" fouls right off the bat, but the refs didn't have to go that far, Brackins was getting bumped and hacked and fouled all night, with no call.

I know that Eustachy would have been out there ripping bloody chunks off the refs. Is McDermott not doing the same? I know that he's a really big guy, you would think that would make an impression.

Fouls all one way--it's no wonder a young team gets dispirited.

Of course, I could be wrong. Perhaps that was all my imagination.

 

[bawbie]

This will make everyone feel better:

#17 Memphis is playing #19 Georgetown and Shawn Taggart has 14 & 7 at halftime.

 

[MontyBurns]

Is it 2006? Because I read the same stuff after the Iowa game then.

Lickliter > Alford. The bar has been raised since 2006 as far as the Iowa game goes.

We need a strong inside player (i.e. a thug) to complement Brackins and we need a guard who is better than Garrett. We have 1 of the 2 coming in next year. Hamilton and/or Pomlee might become the other with a year in the weight room. The rest of the players are in place. We just need to be patient.