Weight issues are root of Mangino's problems

[CJDelmonico]

So where did Whitlock get his PhD in Clinical Psychology again? Oh, that's right, he doesn't have one. That makes his opinion utterly and completely worthless.

Secondly, I've seen plenty of skinny guys who are complete a-wipes as well in this world.

 

[usedcarguy]

In this instance, Whitlock is spot on. The fact that Mangino is overweight is nothing new. If you look at his 12-1 season, it's obvious that he's put on 50-75 pounds bare minimum since then. There comes a point when it becomes obvious one is not in control of their own life. Being 300-350 pounds could be construed as not caring about one's weight. But when you're approaching 500, then it's obvious that it's much more than that. I'm sure it's becoming obvious to his players because there seems to be respect issues surfacing.

Definately a candidate for a lap band or a season on biggest loser. I'd pay money to see him go round and round with Jillian.

 

[CYdTracked]

Maybe Mangino and Whitlock can both be on NBC's Biggest Loser and see if either one of them can shed some weight. Seriously, he spins it like "my fat is not as bad as your fat" basically...

Bottom line is when KU was winning everyone loved the big lug and now that their season is swirling in the crapper all the sudden the weight issue takes center stage.

 

[demoncore1031]

would be funny to see a south park charector of mangina... or mangino

 

[kingcy]

Why is his weight all of a sudden a huge issue? If it wasnt an issue when he was hired why is it now? Are KU fans getting tierd of the jokes? Are they tired of having a good FB team?

 

[Tre4ISU]

I actually tend to agree with this point somewhat. Mangino has always had a bad temper. He ripped refs at his sons high school game for crying out loud. I think that his weight does show a certain lack of self control. I don't know that it is a direct cause, but I think it indicates some other things that may lead to his problems. I think this has been brought out heavily because they are not winning right now, but his temper has always been bad.

 

[cycloneML]

lew perkins is disgusted by mangino's physical appearance.

 

[83Clone]

I know Mangino is morbidly obese, but he was morbidly obese when they hired him

 

[cyhiphopp]

would be funny to see a south park charector of mangina... or mangino

Reminded me of picture that was previously posted on here by throwittoblythe almost two years ago. Unfortunately I can't find one for 2009 with CPR. Mangina and Gundy are pretty spot on.

 

[cyhiphopp]

Off topic but...


2007 Big Ten

 

[cyhiphopp]

2006 Big XII

 

[Wesley]

:biglaugh: This.

So we can attribute Whitlock being a horse's butt because he feels insecure about himself because he is fat, right?

Naw, like I stated in another post, he would be a horse's butt and have that air of superiority even if he weighed 200 pounds. A zebra is still a zebra no matter how much it weighs.

It is interesting that a 325 person can dog a 460 pound person to this degree. He is like a fat stalker.

 

[Tre4ISU]

It is interesting that a 325 person can dog a 460 pound person to this degree. He is like a fat stalker.

I actually find this article to be a little more respectable because he is there and possibly knows a little more about this type of complex than most. I think his general idea makes sense. Manginos sense on inadequacy due to his obesity may wear on him and make him as temperamental as he is. I, for one, think he is a good coach. I think this year has really taken a toll on him. After such strong success early, it would be very hard to fall back to this point.

I am sure I will get ripped for the following. I would like to preface this with the fact that I am only 22.

I think today's athletes are soft. I don't mean softer, I mean soft. They are raised with everyone kissing their *** and as soon as someone gets on them they feel they are abused. In my high school sports, I was never yelled at or spoken to in a strong tone. I wish I would have been. There is certainly a way to do this without abusing someone, but I think abuse is used far too widely today. I feel as long as it is not an attack on the person it is not abuse. In Manginos case, a player was allegedly laughing and goofing around during a walkthrough. If this is the case, what should have happened? That is a sign of disrespect to someone who has given you a chance to go to college for free. The kids coming into big time athletic programs today are not the same. They now have egos. They think they are really something and when someone gets on them, they are instantly shocked that someone could to anything but compliment them. That is BS.

 

[demoncore1031]

haha love the arby's logo above mangina's head!! should mess with the chizik pic in some way

 

[ISUChippewa]

I am sure I will get ripped for the following. I would like to preface this with the fact that I am only 22.

I think today's athletes are soft. I don't mean softer, I mean soft. They are raised with everyone kissing their *** and as soon as someone gets on them they feel they are abused. In my high school sports, I was never yelled at or spoken to in a strong tone. I wish I would have been. There is certainly a way to do this without abusing someone, but I think abuse is used far too widely today. I feel as long as it is not an attack on the person it is not abuse. In Manginos case, a player was allegedly laughing and goofing around during a walkthrough. If this is the case, what should have happened? That is a sign of disrespect to someone who has given you a chance to go to college for free. The kids coming into big time athletic programs today are not the same. They now have egos. They think they are really something and when someone gets on them, they are instantly shocked that someone could to anything but compliment them. That is BS.

This. I'm not going to rip on you at all. In fact, I'm going to give you a lot of praise for recognizing this at the young age of 22.

For a while now, self-esteem development has been the most important and most effective function of our educational system. For a number of years now, kids have been told that they are the smartest and best people in the world because they can walk ten feet in a straight line without falling down. Okay, maybe that's pushing it, but kids these days are singing (in the tune of Freres Jacque) "I am special, I am special, look at me, look at me" in pre-school. Narcissism is getting bigger and bigger every day in contemporary society. I actually got a book for my birthday (that I admittedly haven't started yet) called "The Narcissism Epidemic" explaining the root causes of the problem and all of the negative effects of this overwhelming narcissism and "self-esteem" development on society.

I think that when you hear about players complaining to their mommies and daddies about coaches "coaching" and "being mean" you see the effects of what I'm writing about. Kids these days don't know how to take criticism positively because they've never been criticized before in their life! Now if there was/is physical abuse or even verbal abuse (and there's a fine line) that's a different story. But it sounds like some of these athletes could also be spoiled whiners as well.

Don't get me wrong. I do beleive in positive self-esteem, but it needs to be GENUINELY EARNED. Not handed out for free like friggin' Halloween candy.

 

[Klubber]

I am sure I will get ripped for the following. I would like to preface this with the fact that I am only 22.

I think today's athletes are soft. I don't mean softer, I mean soft. They are raised with everyone kissing their *** and as soon as someone gets on them they feel they are abused. In my high school sports, I was never yelled at or spoken to in a strong tone. I wish I would have been. There is certainly a way to do this without abusing someone, but I think abuse is used far too widely today. I feel as long as it is not an attack on the person it is not abuse.

I don't know why anyone would rip you for being spot on. You're absolutely correct here. I had coaches who were the "get in your face, grab your jersey types," and ones who were more laid back. Tom Landry won Super Bowls using a laid back approach. Someone like Mike Ditka was a get in your face type. Coaches use different approaches.

But back to your point, I never felt abused when I was yelled at by a coach. Also, these athletes chose to go to KU. If they didn't want to play for a hothead, they should have gone elsewhere. There is a line that coaches shouldn't cross, like hitting a player (Woody Hayes), but from what I've read, I don't think Mangino crossed that line.

 

[Tornado man]

I think that when you hear about players complaining to their mommies and daddies about coaches "coaching" and "being mean" you see the effects of what I'm writing about. Kids these days don't know how to take criticism positively because they've never been criticized before in their life!

Uh, perhaps this would apply to Mangino as well? I wonder how many times friends, family, and co-workers (like maybe the AD) have tried to help him or told him to fix his weight problem, for his own sake, and he's brushed them aside?

 

[ISUFan22]

Uh, perhaps this would apply to Mangino as well? I wonder how many times friends, family, and co-workers (like maybe the AD) have tried to help him or told him to fix his weight problem, for his own sake, and he's brushed them aside?

1. Relating what a coach says about a player's poor on field performance to a family member talking to another family member about their weight? :wideeyed:

2. Which family member or friend has talked to Mangino about his weight and was brushed aside? I have not yet read an article on this, can you provide a link to it for us?

 

[Tornado man]

1. Relating what a coach says about a player's poor on field performance to a family member talking to another family member about their weight? :wideeyed:

2. Which family member or friend has talked to Mangino about his weight and was brushed aside? I have not yet read an article on this, can you provide a link to it for us?

My response was to the post about players today not taking criticism in a "positive manner." Hello? Do you not think Mangino has received (and obviously ignored)feedback about his overeating and weight issues from parents, friends, coaching colleagues, and physicians all his life?
Would you not counsel a friend or family member if they were in Mangino's condition? Please.

 

[ISUFan22]

Well it's rather true that players these days, a decent number of them, can't handle being criticized.

The fact is, you have no idea who has talked to Mangino about his weight, what he said to them about their concerns and what he is/isn't doing about his weight.