Tom Manning a candidate for KU FB job
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I feel like this is an insult to good drugs.
CycloneErik
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We went there in maybe 2016 give or take a year.
The bathrooms in the stadium were absolutely gross. I think they must have been cleaned but just stains everywhere. Felt like a dungeon. We did have our pick of seats though
Worth noting in this conversation, both Manning and Heacock are making north of $900k now. That amount would exceed most of what a Group of 5 HC would pay. Iowa State (and Campbell) has really stepped up the budget in regards to its assistants.
Mistake #1 - leaving a team with a chance at a natty with possibly the best QB/RB/TE in the nation.
Mistake #2 - thinking that an opportunity like Kansas HC is a once in a lifetime event.
Mistake #3 - being an opponent of your greatest mentor.
Mistake #4 - not having time enough to establish p5 offense, defense, special teams, recruiting, and dealing with boosters.
Mistake #2 - thinking that an opportunity like Kansas HC is a once in a lifetime event.
Mistake #3 - being an opponent of your greatest mentor.
Mistake #4 - not having time enough to establish p5 offense, defense, special teams, recruiting, and dealing with boosters.
And it was true until we finally got a University President that cared about athletics. Imagine if Dan McCarney came to Ames with what we have today (or even 10 years ago) compared to when Walden's career died.
There are no guarantees. KU probably won’t offer him the job anyway so this is a moot point, but if I’m making $600k/year and someone offers me $20m guaranteed contract I’m taking it. One contract lIke that and you’re set for life.
Manning is almost making a million now. They'd pay their new guy what... like 2.5M? He's pretty much set for life already. The only reason for him to take a head coaching job is the challenge/ego/control. And if that's the case, there are FAR better opportunities than that dumpster fire...and with far fewer headaches.
I would agree with Ross. They were idiots to fire him.
I think they were idiots to hire Les Miles.
I think they were probably on the fence with Beaty until we came there, blew them the eff out, and then their players were telling reporters there was more ISU fans there than KU fans and it was like an away game. LOL
Where are you seeing $20 mil guaranteed? You don't hire an assistant with no HC experience if you're paying that much. And it's already been pointed out Manning makes closer to a million. Maybe make your analogy a little more grounded in reality.
The only way a coach can have success at KU is to run a totally different offense from the rest of the conference, If I was doing the hiring, I would go after the guy at Army. He has had multiple years of success playing smaller and slower players than his opponents.
There are plenty of small quick QB's out there that can run, just do not have a strong enough arm to pass the ball in P5 football. Go all in on back to the future, with a option running game to shorten the game, and it might be successful. He gave OU fits a few years ago before finally losing in a close game.
There are plenty of small quick QB's out there that can run, just do not have a strong enough arm to pass the ball in P5 football. Go all in on back to the future, with a option running game to shorten the game, and it might be successful. He gave OU fits a few years ago before finally losing in a close game.
As an ISU fan I hope they don't hire Monken cause his style of play is a major pain in the a$$ to play against. Especially if you only have like 5-6 days to prepare for it.
I was getting ready to write something about Campbell indirectly getting him fired. It wasn't just Campbell blowing them out, but having solid success in year three while they were still struggling. They thought they'd get their own Campbell. Instead they got Les Miles. LOL
They need a Dan McCarney type that is as good at building public interest as he is a team. Then they need the patience to see it through. Thank God those kind of guys don't grow on trees. They can turn it around, but they have to understand that they are where we were in 1995. I think if given a few more years, Beaty could have gotten them to winning 4-6 games a year...which for that program is no small feat.
