Tiller wont be the starter next year. You heard it here. Unless he dramaticly improves on passing over that time. The starter will be a Herman recruit. Either Capello, Barnett or Richardson.
So, since Tiller put up absolutely horrible numbers against the worst team we played all year, we should let him play against the likes of Texas Tech, Utah, Texas and Oklahoma? Makes sense to me.
Since Arnaud only averages 2 turnovers a game we should let him play right?
Tiller wont be the starter next year. You heard it here. Unless he dramaticly improves on passing over that time. The starter will be a Herman recruit. Either Capello, Barnett or Richardson.
Since Arnaud only averages 2 turnovers a game we should let him play right?
Until they open the playbook wide for Jerome you can't compare the 2. Tiller is far more athletic, Arnaud is bigger and harder to bring down. They need to let Tiller to continue to get snaps and let him run a little and the pass will open up with him. I think once the dust settles, Tiller is you better option for this year and the future.
Tiller is not that bad. he actually can float a ball in over the defense. He was being chased pretty good by the Panthers all night (oline was having problems). Both of our qbs are not diamonds in the rough throwing on the run. Again,, some of the passes were deliberate overthrows to avoid interceptions. Tiller managed the game and it worked out. We did not get behind in the game and have to go to super scramble mode.
all right ive been disrespected to many times on Cf since I joined in June. Gone.
all right ive been disrespected to many times on Cf since I joined in June. Gone.
Yes, seriously. Everyone (seemingly) wanted him to get a shot, then he does and they want to give up on him after one game! I want to see what he can do when he settles down, he was obviously jacked up Saturday night and overthrowing everything.
You guys are right. Im the idiot for wanting to get Tiller more than one game of experience before i judge him.
You guys are right Tiller only deserves one game this season and he got. he blew it by having low stats and now its time to go back.
Oh, I see, so we can use the Oline as an excuse ONLY for TIller because it'sdifferent when Arnaud plays.
Yet again, somebody else acting like the 3 INTs from the Iowa game were the end of the world. One more time, ISU was down 28-0 before he threw the first INT. The first 2 INTs came on 3rd downs and the 3rd on a 4th and 12. Maybe just maybe, you could cut the QB a little slack for trying to make a play when the offense has sucked all day long and the team is down by 28? Or we could just continue to pretend that the reason we lost the Iowa game was because of Arnaud's INTs. Yeah, that sounds like more fun.
You could give him a little slack but throwing TWO interceptions inside the ten when you are going into score isn't something to just ignore!
Yes, the game was over but honestly the game was over when Robinson dropped the first 3rd down pass.
Let's say I was 50/50 on giving Tiller a shot if Arnaud is healthy. The shot he got was against the absolute worst defense we will play all year so I would actually need to see him do something much better than Arnaud to have reason to want him more. Alright, so he did what he did and now I don't want to see him unless there is an injury. He wasn't impressive. It wasn't like he went 7/9 with 90 yards. He threw the ball 22 frickin times. He completed half of them. Let's say 1/4(I think that's generous) were throwaways. That still isn't impressive.
Well, that would make him 11-17 for 87 yards with no turnovers...right? That looks to me like a QB that was told to manage the game and not lose it.
Yeah, he didn't turn it over. Whoopity frickin do. HE LED THE TEAM TO ONE TOUCHDOWN. Even that is flawed because they needed a fake FG to do it. If we kick the fieldgoal we don't even get a touchdown.
How many touchdowns did Arnaud lead the offense to in games against Iowa and Kansas State?
Let's say I was 50/50 on giving Tiller a shot if Arnaud is healthy. The shot he got was against the absolute worst defense we will play all year so I would actually need to see him do something much better than Arnaud to have reason to want him more. Alright, so he did what he did and now I don't want to see him unless there is an injury. He wasn't impressive. It wasn't like he went 7/9 with 90 yards. He threw the ball 22 frickin times. He completed half of them. Let's say 1/4(I think that's generous) were throwaways. That still isn't impressive.
Well, that would make him 11-17 for 87 yards with no turnovers...right? That looks to me like a QB that was told to manage the game and not lose it.
Yeah, he didn't turn it over. Whoopity frickin do. HE LED THE TEAM TO ONE TOUCHDOWN. Even that is flawed because they needed a fake FG to do it. If we kick the fieldgoal we don't even get a touchdown.
How many touchdowns did Arnaud lead the offense to in games against Iowa and Kansas State?
We don't get to count NIU? He also wasn't playing one of the worst pass defenses in D1-AA. Those were real teams and BTW he threw one TD pass in each.
Also, that is still only 65 percent completions. La-dee-da.
We don't get to count NIU? He also wasn't playing one of the worst pass defenses in D1-AA. Those were real teams and BTW he threw one TD pass in each.
Also, that is still only 65 percent completions. La-dee-da.
I have nothing against Arnaud if he comes out and plays the way he did the first half against Northern Illinois. I thought he played lights out and that he was going to have a BIG year, but something happened after he threw that first interception. He has not even come close to playing the way he was in that game. If he did we most likely would be 3-1 and the Iowa game would have been MUCH closer.
Now if you give me the Arnaud that started the NIU game then I am all for it, but if you give me the inconsistant and turnover prone one....I'll take my chances with Tiller!
We don't get to count NIU? He also wasn't playing one of the worst pass defenses in D1-AA. Those were real teams and BTW he threw one TD pass in each.
Also, that is still only 65 percent completions. La-dee-da.
Arnaud is only 57 percent on the year
Tiller DOES need a break. Did people seriously expect him to be AMAZING coming off the bench? He did what he was asked. He didn't look great doing it, but it's funny that the same people who want to rip on Tiller for his weak couple of games are also completely disregarding the fact that you are comparing someone's first 3 erratic starts to a 3 year starter's 3 starts. I don't exactly recall Arnaud setting the world on fire coming in to replace Bret Meyer either...
I'm pretty down the middle about the whole thing. AA or Tiller debate won't matter if our line continues to give them no time whatsoever, and we keep taking dumb penalties.