Stick a fork in 'em
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Wow... Just started reading this thread and am embarrassed. Everyone knew that McDoormat left this program with less life then you could find at the morgue for this season. We lack depth, lack any kind of interior presence, lack experience in most areas, etc.... This is the danger of people letting their expectations get WAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYY too high after a hot start when we were beating up on teams that some local high schools could beat.
Let's try and have a little perspective here.
That's true. In fact, I would say our situation is very similar to Iowa. They have very little talent to work with either, and their wheels fell off a little sooner, maybe, but when you are out-manned every single night, momentum can turn against you quickly. The difference was that our expectations were raised due to an easy OOC schedule and some hot 3-pt shooting.
The only difference between those two difficult rebuilding jobs, is that ISU has a much bigger, more immediate influx of talent next year.
I don't know if these transfers will take us from worst to first, but just the fact that we will be almost twice as deep, and much more athletic, has to count for something.
Also, the transfers will bring some maturity that incoming FR don't have. When you add in what we bring back and the new guys coming in, I can't help but be excited about next year.
Also, for the most part, we've been staying in most of these games. In fact, we probably could have won all but 3-4 games this season, if we just had 1 or 2 of the transfers playing.
This may be the best reason for optimism in the future. It's one thing to have young talent coming in and it is another to have veteran players becoming eligible.
Exactly. We lost a close game at UNI, a tight game with Cal, a 1 point game at Nebby, lost by 5 to Kansas, lost in OT to Okie State and Oklahoma, and have suffered a couple of blowouts to Colorado and Mizzou.
That is 2 stinking games so far this season where we were not competitive down to the bitter end. It is easy to look at our recent skid and a couple blowout losses and think the sky is falling but when you think about our overall record so far we have been in almost every single game except 2 that we lost big. Considering our weakness in the post, streaky shooting, etc.... one has to look at the results so far this season and come away pretty dang impressed with how the team and staff have come together.
+100.
In case anyone forgot, this team is a few seconds away from having 4 wins. They couldn't close out the 2 OT games and NU, but they were all games we could have easily had.
Anybody who wants to go back to McD land and his brand of half court mediocrity is welcome to, but I'll take this team any day.
This year is about Fred setting a tone and installing a system, he's probably not too worried about the W-L record. For comparison, Orr's first team only won 9 games.
It is a fact as there will only be 10 teams. So we would have to create some new level of being bad to finish 12th in a 10 team league. If McD was still here he would find a way to pull that off however.
Completely fair to be upset - as we've had plenty of chances - yet have not closed any of them out.
The current record is not unexpected - for part of the season we simply overachieved in how we played. The juice has run out because of a very short bench and we're getting embarrassed on defense. Tired players don't play great D and struggle to make shots.
But again, chances have been there - the team just excels in finding ways to lose. I have not loved the effort put forth lately - but I will chalk some of it up to exhaustion.
It's quite unfortunate - IMO - had we won a few of those close games more energy would be there. And the fan support would be much better (aka, attendance) - which would be a springboard into what should be a much more fun season. As is, I don't expect a big boost in attendance - will still have plenty of the "I show up for the KU game and never again" fans.
Oh wait - next year add on the "oh, we play Iowa? Lets go to the game! Wait, it's not Iowa but instead is Oklahoma State? Nah, couch works." people too.
The current record is not unexpected - for part of the season we simply overachieved in how we played. The juice has run out because of a very short bench and we're getting embarrassed on defense. Tired players don't play great D and struggle to make shots.
But again, chances have been there - the team just excels in finding ways to lose. I have not loved the effort put forth lately - but I will chalk some of it up to exhaustion.
It's quite unfortunate - IMO - had we won a few of those close games more energy would be there. And the fan support would be much better (aka, attendance) - which would be a springboard into what should be a much more fun season. As is, I don't expect a big boost in attendance - will still have plenty of the "I show up for the KU game and never again" fans.
Oh wait - next year add on the "oh, we play Iowa? Lets go to the game! Wait, it's not Iowa but instead is Oklahoma State? Nah, couch works." people too.
To go further, the ten-year McD red seat is even hotter by far than CFH after the Bradley loss. Bradley is really a lousy team.
we are fourth in the b12 in attendance, behind KU, TX, and KSU. we'd be ahead of KSU if they hadn't played some games in KC.
I think with what we have Coach Fred is doing a fab job, we have no bench people and yes it will catch up with you and now it has. We all want more coaches, players, fans, but it is just not there. I will tell you this Coach mcdumbass could not have coached this team as well as Freddie has, this season has been better to watch better b-ball just not enough depth. So for the idiots out there questioning coach Fred before the season is even over in year one are pure idiots!!!
Been to many games? Paid attendance has been a far cry from actual people in the seats.
I was honestly really pleasantly surprise by the game last Saturday considering it was an 8:00 PM tip.
While the record as a whole isn't unexpected, the team is better than it's playing right now and IMO they should have gotten ONE of the close ones recently. Our losing seemingly every close game is MacCarney-esque.
While the record as a whole isn't unexpected, the team is better than it's playing right now and IMO they should have gotten ONE of the close ones recently. Our losing seemingly every close game is MacCarney-esque.
Absolutely stupid. Unless the game is on National TV there is no reason that our games should be tipping off at 8pm. The Colorado game was our 5th consecutive 8pm tip. That is crap.
Would you be happier with it if I told you the Colorado game was a 7 pm tip? It was just played in the Mountain Time Zone.
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You know I have always been fascinated by the whole LE idol worship thing. I get that he had an amazing couple of years. BUT when you look at the whole body of work, it wasn't that dazzling (44-48).
Maybe you are too young, but apparently you don't rememeber the other three years that he was the coach here.
As for this team, the simple problem is that they have gotten into a pattern. The lack of depth has caught up with them, but every game starts the same way. We get down early, and then expend whatever energy that we have catching up.
But the biggest problem is that when we need to make plays at the end of games, we don't have anyone handling the ball that has ever won at this level before. Except for the KState game last year, DG, not all his fault that chewey is such a dog **** coach as he is proving at Creighton, NEVER has made the big play to win tough games.
That is it in a nutshell. Then this group, which was mentally fragile to begin with, started losing all of the close games, and the rest has gone down like it did each of the last few years. There really is nothing wrong with this team that a win wouldn't begin to cure. Let's hope that we can get one soon, and see what happens.
But for the idiot trying to talk about firing Hoiberg, please stop. No really STOP!
I don't know how you got me idolizing LE out of the post you quoted of mine...it had nothing to do with him...
I prefer tipping off at 8. I also believe anybody who whines & cries about 8pm tip times is the type of person who whines & cries if their coffee is served hot.
