KidSilverhair
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They are safer. Accidents in roundabouts are usually at a lower speed, and if you collide its quarterpanel to quarterpanel.
Accidents at intersections are T-bones.
Speed trap Cameras in Strawberry Point?
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Accidents at intersections are T-bones.
The average person doesn't have very many different people driving their vehicle. It doesn't matter to me if it was my wife or I that gets a speed camera ticket, it should be paid either way.
While your example of the limits of the camera technology is valid, I think that's a pretty unusual instance.
So are parking tickets.
Don't speed excessively, don't pay a fine. Problem solved.
Pride don't believe in parking tickets either, as a free traveler he is allowed to park anywhere he chooses.
You can make left turns on red at the circled intersections. You cannot where the stoplights are in the picture.
KidSilverhair
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Rereading the post I believe you are correct.
I agree speed cameras are mostly a money grab. Can’t deny they’ve slowed down traffic through the Cedar Rapids S-curve, though.
The slow down traffic for about 400 total feet on that whole half mile stretch.
KidSilverhair
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They can hold up any state payments to you, like your tax returns. I think they can also turn you over to a collection agency, which could be a real hassle. I’m not sure if a camera ticket could be an issue when you’re paying your vehicle registration - since I haven‘t heard a lot of complaining about it, maybe not.
But no moving violation, no hit to your insurance.
KidSilverhair
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Sure, there’s a lot of slowing down for the cameras and then speeding up again, but the net total speed of traffic through there is way down from before the cameras. It was like the Indy 500 before; now traffic generally runs about 60-64 through there (yes, with the occasional 80-mph moron).
Source: I drove through the S-curve twice every workday from 2002 to 2018, and pretty frequently both before and after. Traffic flow is noticeably slower (not a lot, but noticeably) since the cameras went up in 2010.
Got it. Looks like basically turning left from a one way to another. I'd guess at higher speed.
Sumner years ago had a 25 mph on 93 (East-West) and would hit you for a few ticks over. Seems like that isn't the case now. Thanks for the info on Fayette.
I can let anyone with a valid license drive my car on a public road and anyone drive it on private property. Any quantity I choose, it's my car.
If they issue a ticket without verification of the driver then there is no way that they can prove who was driving. Without a witness and/or verification there is no way that someone could defend themselves against the accusattion. In America you have the right to due process. Speed cameras don't allow for due process and that's why they aren't moving violations and why the municipalities who issue them know they aren't really enforcable..
Most people just pay or don't go through the trouble of fighting it if it goes to collections. They know this.
@Cyclonepride It's a total scam under the guise of safety.
I've always paid approx ~20 dollars to the state, year over year since 2015 so that wouldn't impact me.
They cannot legally impact credit in the state of Iowa. So feel free to tell any collection agency's to F off when they call.
Ignore your 380 speeding ticket, collection agencies will still call
Unpaid citations from the Interstate 380 cameras cannot legally impact your credit, but that doesn't mean you go away with it; collection agencies still have a job to do.Donald Lehner, whose daughter acquired six speeding citations, said he's learning that
Any links to where civil violations in the state of Iowa will prevent you from paying your vehicle registration? Moving violations yes...but civil violations?
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BTW, even the city of Cedar Rapids doesn't request tax withholdings anymore...
www.thegazette.com
Cedar Rapids ends controversial traffic camera collection effort
CEDAR RAPIDS – Cedar Rapids quietly discontinued a controversial collection initiative in which people owing money for unpaid automated traffic …
www.thegazette.com
So how many people, on average (other than your spouse), drive your vehicle on a monthly basis?
If you have a family friend driving your car and they get a ticket that gets sent to you, and they refuse to pay it...then fine your point is valid. I would be willing to bet 99% of cases the vehicle owner would be able to determine who was driving their car based upon the date and timestamp. If you're lending your car out like a rental, then I guess you assume that risk.
There is no scam. The laws are clearly stated and speed limits clearly posted. Again, don't want a fine, don't speed excessively. It's really that simple.
