Speed camera

[VeloClone]

Your credit cannot be impacted by unpaid automated tickets in this state. If they did report it to your credit, it would be a documented violation of the law. That would be a bold strategy for the collection agencies.

Now, there is nothing stopping the collection agencies from calling and hounding you about it. I guess its just a matter of how many times they want their agents to hear the phrase "Go F*ck yourself" before getting hung up on.

It does sound like the city could take you to court to pay it. - But spending what could be thousands of dollars to recover a less than $100 dollar ticket means that is likely an idle threat unless your ticket is above a particular threshold.

What we really need is a ground roots effort for every Iowan to stop paying the tickets. All of these contracts for these cameras include roughly a 30%-40% commission to the camera companies for every ticket issued. Per the contract, these companies get this money REGARDLESS if the city / county is paid by the violater. When everyone stops paying, then suddenly the cameras become money pits for that city / county. But hey, if they really are for "safety" purposes, then the city / county should have no problems with continuing to dump their limited resources into them with nothing in return...right? RIGHT?

What we really need is a bit of personal responsibility here.

I know it is a crazy idea...you could either follow the posted speed limit or face the consequences when you don't. I am a habitual speeder, but I'm not going to cry when I get caught speeding. I once got caught by one in CR. I thought I was careful, but apparently not careful enough. I did the crime, I paid the dime.

 

[keepngoal]

I said this earlier in the thread. I'm fine with speed cameras if the entire fine goes to something like the VA or DNR trust fund and the municipality running the cameras bears the entire cost of operating them.

why does that make it work for you? Must parking tickets go to XYorZ?

 

[3TrueFans]

I'm ok with speed cameras if all the money goes to me.

 

[Ms3r4ISU]

So how many of these cameras in DSM are just set up not for speeding, but just at intersections? Our daughter got hit with a ticket a while back for turning right on a red light.

Had she stopped first? I notice quite a few Ames drivers who forget that it's actually "right turn on red after stop." Unless of course there's a green arrow for your lane.

 

[Clone1992]

why does that make it work for you? Must parking tickets go to XYorZ?

Because there's no incentive for the cities to put up the cameras in the first place if they don't get to grab all of the revenue generated from them.

 

[isufbcurt]

Just got a speed camera ticket from I235 in Des Moines, 71 in a 60, it went straight in the garbage.

 

[keepngoal]

Because there's no incentive for the cities to put up the cameras in the first place if they don't get to grab all of the revenue generated from them.

They don't 'get to grab all of the revenue generated from them'. So now what?

 

[cycloner29]

Had she stopped first? I notice quite a few Ames drivers who forget that it's actually "right turn on red after stop." Unless of course there's a green arrow for your lane.

I live in the north Ames and it's more about beating the yellow light, especially on 20th and Grand along with 24th Grand. Always hear the skidding tires and then the crash and crunch of glass, metal and plastic.

Sign said no right turn on red she took it as a right turn on red after stop.

 

[JayV]

I've been dumbed for this take before, and maybe I will again, but I'll risk it.
My complaint is that they've effectively created two classes of punishment for the same crime. If you get pulled over by an officer, the driver who was speeding gets a ticket. And it's a ticket that must be paid, by law. If you get photo'd by a camera, the owner of the car, who may or may not have been the driver, gets a ticket that is legally optional on whether to pay or not.

If the NRA was still a viable thing (and I'm glad they aren't) they should be protesting making the owner of an inanimate object liable for a crime committed with that object, and no proof the owner was the one who committed the crime.

For whatever it's worth, I've never received a speeding ticket from a camera, whether I was driving my vehicle or not.

 

[SleepyEyeCy]

I have never received a speeding ticket but have paid online toll fees from cameras in Illinois. Personally I don't believe the speed camera pass the 6th Amendment test of "the right to face your accusers". In almost all cases it is not a public safety issue but merely a local government "tax" and revenue stream.

 

[Clone1992]

They don't 'get to grab all of the revenue generated from them'. So now what?

Fine saying "All" was a bit exaggerated which I'm sure you knew. The point is that there's no way that most of these cameras would be installed if the major incentive of doing so wasn't to generate large sums of revenue for the towns/cities to buy shiny new things.

 

[Clonehomer]

I have never received a speeding ticket but have paid online toll fees from cameras in Illinois. Personally I don't believe the speed camera pass the 6th Amendment test of "the right to face your accusers". In almost all cases it is not a public safety issue but merely a local government "tax" and revenue stream.

But in all case were there laws broken? I struggle to call it a tax if it’s completely avoidable by following the law. Or, even staying within 10 mph of the posted speed.

 

[Clonehomer]

Fine saying "All" was a bit exaggerated which I'm sure you knew. The point is that there's no way that most of these cameras would be installed if the major incentive of doing so wasn't to generate large sums of revenue for the towns/cities to buy shiny new things.

There’s also no way these cameras would be installed if there weren’t people speeding on those roads. That’s the fundamental issue here. If people are breaking the law, should they be punished for doing so?

 

[3TrueFans]

But in all case were there laws broken? I struggle to call it a tax if it’s completely avoidable by following the law. Or, even staying within 10 mph of the posted speed.

Tax on stupid

 

[keepngoal]

Fine saying "All" was a bit exaggerated which I'm sure you knew. The point is that there's no way that most of these cameras would be installed if the major incentive of doing so wasn't to generate large sums of revenue for the towns/cities to buy shiny new things.

So a town knows many people travel too fast for a location/area, and speeding 11+ over the posted limit. They install a device to correct or collect on said people. Whose fault is it that large sums are being collected for 11+ over the limit?

 

[Clone1992]

So a town knows many people travel too fast for a location/area, and speeding 11+ over the posted limit. They install a device to correct or collect on said people. Whose fault is it that large sums are being collected for 11+ over the limit?

The driver is at fault for speeding 11 or more MPH over the posted speed limit AND the city put up the device that caught them doing so almost exclusively for the purpose of generating revenue even though they would never admit to it and will always claim that it is for the sake of safety. Take away the financial incentive and the cities will never put the cameras up and then drivers will have to caught speeding the old fashioned way.

 

[keepngoal]

The driver is at fault for speeding 11 or more MPH over the posted speed limit AND the city put up the device that caught them doing so almost exclusively for the purpose of generating revenue even though they would never admit to it and will always claim that it is for the sake of safety. Take away the financial incentive and the cities will never put the cameras up and then drivers will have to caught speeding the old fashioned way.

Link? Or its just your feelings around this.

is speeding 11 and over of the posted speed limit safe?

 

[2speedy1]

The driver is at fault for speeding 11 or more MPH over the posted speed limit AND the city put up the device that caught them doing so almost exclusively for the purpose of generating revenue even though they would never admit to it and will always claim that it is for the sake of safety. Take away the financial incentive and the cities will never put the cameras up and then drivers will have to caught speeding the old fashioned way.

Or.... people could just slow down.

Im sure there are a lot of things you wish were done the "old fashioned way". And every day technology changes even more of those to new ways.

 

[CyDegen]

Link? Or its just your feelings around this.

is speeding 11 and over of the posted speed limit safe?

It is completely safe to speed 10 miles over assuming the weather and traffic is clear. That is the issue

 

[Clone1992]

Link? Or its just your feelings around this.

is speeding 11 and over of the posted speed limit safe?

I think the Iowa DOT calling BS on most of the speed cameras in Iowa is pretty compelling evidence that they aren't there MOSTLY for safety otherwise it seems odd that our DOT isn't interested in safety. 11+ MPH over the posted isn't especially dangerous in many places where cameras are placed. I don't have a link for that though. That's my opinion.