The team lacks leadership and coaching. I apologize for calling you and idiot. That was un called for.
Should we be worried?
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The team lacks leadership and coaching. I apologize for calling you and idiot. That was un called for.
It may not be the main reason, but it's a factor. He ran their *** off in practice when they did something wrong. He gave the team some discipline and I haven't seen that this year. That team played almost all of 40 minutes and this team plays for 30 minutes and drops off the face of the Earth.
I would agree with this too. It's obvious this team feeds off of White this year, but he doesn't give the consistent effort that Jake and Diante did. I think White needs a coach who will scream at him from time to time, I don't know if Fred is the kind of guy that will do that.
Other than maybe Michigan, this team is much more talented than all the teams they have played. Drake and UNI do not have much talent. UNI is exceptionally well coached. Drake won that particular game because they were the better coached team.
I agree that Lutz (and last year's coaching staff) is missed this year. I think FH is still learning, and only time will tell if he picks it up or not. I know he is an intelligent man, and hopefully he will learn.
Right now I see FH as something like Johnny Majors was here at Iowa State. Johnny was a great recruiter (as I think FH, and/or at least his staff are) but he did not seem to be that much of a coach. However, he was smart enough to put some very good people around him here at ISU, including Jimmy Johnson (yes THAT Jimmy Johnson), Larry Lacewell, Joe Avezanno, and Jackie Sherril. If you don't know who those guys were, google them. With them, Johnny was able to recruit and be the PR man for the program, and eventually he won here.
Majors won here, and at Pitt and Tennessee because of his recruiting ability and the staffs he had around him. Maybe FH will be able to do the same here.
If you get talented enough players, and can at least motivate them to play, you really don't have to coach much.
Right now I see FH as something like Johnny Majors was here at Iowa State. Johnny was a great recruiter (as I think FH, and/or at least his staff are) but he did not seem to be that much of a coach. However, he was smart enough to put some very good people around him here at ISU, including Jimmy Johnson (yes THAT Jimmy Johnson), Larry Lacewell, Joe Avezanno, and Jackie Sherril. If you don't know who those guys were, google them. With them, Johnny was able to recruit and be the PR man for the program, and eventually he won here.
Majors won here, and at Pitt and Tennessee because of his recruiting ability and the staffs he had around him. Maybe FH will be able to do the same here.
If you get talented enough players, and can at least motivate them to play, you really don't have to coach much.
CycloneErik
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That's my concern. Most of them have been together as a team for a year and a half. Sure, they weren't playing actual games and such, but basketball isn't rocket science. It isn't that difficult to come together as a team.
It doesn't look very good right now. The inconsistent effort looks like a major conference play problem.
So it was Lutz who drew up all those 1on1 plays for DG at the end of games that everyone hated so much last year.
Agreed. I've definitely been disappointed in a majority of the performances this season, and I would be lying if I said that I haven't allowed some doubt to creep into my mind as far as Hoiberg's coaching ability goes. But I will be very worried if Fred doesn't take a good look at his staff and decide to make a key change or two before next season.
Look up and down the bench and we just don't have enough coaching experience. Period. I heard a halftime radio interview with Matt Abdelmassih early in the season and all I could do was shake my head. This guy is obviously a great recruiter, but listening to him break down the 1st half was like listing to an interview with Joe Fan sitting up in section 240. There was zero substance, and I hope he and his fellow assistants have more to offer the players in the locker room.
It was not difficult to see who was doing all the talking in the huddle last year. Did you even watch the huddles last year?
Still learning. Have to continue to Improve for sure. The same people panicking now will be the first to declare them all world after their first huge win
We don't have a leader on the court. I remember seeing Diante chew *** on the court. No one on this team does that. There seems to be very little accountability. Maybe some guys are scared to do it, I don't know but I remember seeing DG lay into Craig multiple times when they were playing. It doesn't seem like anyone is stepping up and doing that. Allen should be that guy. He's won a lot and has the most credibility. I don't care if it's a coach or a player but someone has to light a fire under these guys' ***** for us to have any success.
Hate to say this, but McD use to pick on our best player to pick it up. Jiri was one of his favorites to be chewed upon.
I agree. This has nothing to do with that. How many times has Calipari thrown 3 true freshmen out there and had not just good, but great teams.
I don't know if we have a leader on the coaching staff either. I don't think anyone would argue that Fred looks to be a player's coach this far into his tenure. And that's fine, but if you fill your staff with other coaches like that, then you may have a problem. Who's the coach who really lights into the guys? Who's the coach that isn't worried about offending these guys once in a while?
DG was about our only option. Jake and Scotty would have been stuffed.
Did you notice we cannot run an in bounds play worth beans this year when we were very successful last year? Lutz.
I think that's an excellent point to make. Not only should Hoiberg take a look at making a change or two before next season, but it might not be a bad idea to go after a guy who can play "bad cop" every now and then when needed.
I think that "offending" part is key. There's a fine line there but someone is going to have to do it. If someone doesn't like it, they can GTFO. I'm not one to just make the blanket statement of "Just yell, it will work" but there needs to be some excitement created. Paul Rhoads doesn't endlessly chew guys' ***** on the sideline but he manages to inspire his guys to play. Football and basketball players are slightly different personalities but the same principle exists.
