REPORT: Campbell bringing OC, O-Line coaches with him to ISU

[isufbcurt]

Yep.

Are you new to how coaching works? Coaching is the biggest nepotism profession there is. I am not saying it is good or bad, but it is how it is. HC's hire assistants they are familiar with and know they can trust. They aren't going to fill their staff with guys they are just getting to know and can't fully trust.

Here are just some examples:

HC DMac brings Jay Norvell with him
HC Alvarez brings DMac to Wisconsin with him
HC Snyder brings Del Miller with him
HC Stoops brings brother Stoops with him
HC Kill brings NIU coaches with him

It isn't something that is unique to ISU coaches.

 

[Die4Cy]

you mean like how texas kids who grew up cheering for Texas leave the state to play in the Big 10? Wait, that doesn't happen...

This is where I think CPR's lament about bringing a guardian along on recruiting trips is important. Those of us who attended ISU know it is a pretty easy sell once you get on campus. For a family to turn their son over to a coach 850 or 1000 miles away, you really need to make the parents comfortable with the decision as well.

I really hope JP takes CPR's exiting recommendation to heart.

 

[cyhiphopp]

Is it just me, or is that a large sum of money for an assistant? Wow.

I think that's more than Matt Campbells base HC salary was at Toledo.

 

[brett108]

Out with the old and in with the new. Younger coaches compared to the previous staff. This could really be a good thing. As long as we can keep the Florida/Texas recruiting pipeline, I'll be impressed. The chances of making Ohio a recruiting pipeline would be a great thing. Let's see how he fills out the rest of his staff. Especially on the defensive side.

Pipeline? While we were recruiting Texas, everyone in the conference will recruit Texas. How many impact players were from that state last year? None of the top four WR, the top 2 RBs, or the bulk of the DLine players hail form there. Peavy is the only one off the top of my head who made a huge impact. We have a lot of Texas kids but anyone in a big conference would be able to get the type of players we have been swiping. We have actually seen much better production from the Florida players. I would be worried about that before this. Also, we had been able to grab some kids from California in the past, like KCM. Those two states need to stay in the recruiting strategy.

 

[cyhiphopp]

Look at join date and post count. It's a lot of goobers who dust off their login id and try to remember their password whenever there's a coach search. That's one more advantage of the quick turn, less time to deal with the riff raff.

What else would you expect from a guy who looks like this?

 

[cyhiphopp]

Rivals.com have said both Manning and Candle are two of the nation's top recruiters. I hope we get them both on board.

They've got shiny new stuff at ISU to sell too!

 

[BigLame]

The threads the past couple days reinforce I, indeed, have an iota of intelligence. This makes me feel good after the holiday.

Candle has prior experience recruiting in Florida - so there you go. Hey, and guess what? They had a plan on how to recruit to Toledo. Think they will develop a plan to recruit to Ames? Gosh darn, I hope so!

anyways, found a decent article from 247 Sports - I'm not subscriber so it should be free/available link
http://247sports.com/Article/Led-by-Matt-Campbell-Toledo-is-recruiting-at-a-high-level-41365292

 

[cyhiphopp]

First of all The Big XII is big boy football. Recruiting in the MAC doesn't necessarily translate to successful P5 recruiting. And one of those top recruits you mention had I believe only MAC school offers.

Ohio isn't going to become fertile recruiting ground for ISU or any other Big XII school. If you actually believe that it will, you're delusional. Ohio's Big Ten country; and always will be.

Our recruiting needs to be Texas-centric obviously. I would've liked for our OC to be a Texas guy with recruiting experience in the state. If that makes me an idiot, then whatever...

It does. CMC needs to bring in the OC he wants. Only an idiot would want to dictate who the new coach hires.

I think it's fantastic that he's bringing in an established OC, not hiring his fishing buddies or promoting someone with no OC experience, like some of our previous coaches.

 

[MeanDean]

Several of us are old enough to remember Earle Bruce.

He was from Ohio.

He brought in (recruited - if you will) many many Ohio kids.

Earle Bruce won several games

Conclusion - Iowa State coaches from Ohio can recruit Ohio kids - and be successful.

 

[Cyclonepride]

The threads the past couple days reinforce I, indeed, have an iota of intelligence. This makes me feel good after the holiday.

Candle has prior experience recruiting in Florida - so there you go. Hey, and guess what? They had a plan on how to recruit to Toledo. Think they will develop a plan to recruit to Ames? Gosh darn, I hope so!

anyways, found a decent article from 247 Sports - I'm not subscriber so it should be free/available link
http://247sports.com/Article/Led-by-Matt-Campbell-Toledo-is-recruiting-at-a-high-level-41365292

That four hour radius sounds like a good plan. That puts Chicago, Minneapolis, Kansas City and Omaha in the radius (maybe St Louis? edit-nope).

 

[Cydwinder]

First of all The Big XII is big boy football. Recruiting in the MAC doesn't necessarily translate to successful P5 recruiting. And one of those top recruits you mention had I believe only MAC school offers.

Ohio isn't going to become fertile recruiting ground for ISU or any other Big XII school. If you actually believe that it will, you're delusional. Ohio's Big Ten country; and always will be.

Our recruiting needs to be Texas-centric obviously. I would've liked for our OC to be a Texas guy with recruiting experience in the state. If that makes me an idiot, then whatever...

It's obvious that MC was highered by Pollard due to his Ohio connections because he knows ISU is going to the B1G soon

 

[CyBobby]

First of all The Big XII is big boy football. Recruiting in the MAC doesn't necessarily translate to successful P5 recruiting. And one of those top recruits you mention had I believe only MAC school offers.

Ohio isn't going to become fertile recruiting ground for ISU or any other Big XII school. If you actually believe that it will, you're delusional. Ohio's Big Ten country; and always will be.


OC recruiting Texas ...Mark Mangino was recruiting Texas...How did that Work Out...


...Look if Matt Campbell is half as smart as I think he is.....He will have guys with ties to the Texas High School Coaches, who will be able to recruit texas talent................

"To be able to recruit the state of Texas you have to play 3 games there".........quoting Bobby Stoops

Last time I checked we play 3 games in Texas.....



Our recruiting needs to be Texas-centric obviously. I would've liked for our OC to be a Texas guy with recruiting experience in the state. If that makes me an idiot, then whatever...

 

[CyBobby]

Several of us are old enough to remember Earle Bruce.

He was from Ohio.

He brought in (recruited - if you will) many many Ohio kids.

I saw every home game that Earle Bruce coached at JTS.....Earle also got kids from Georgia like Luther Blue and also guys from Florida.....

Winning Football can be done at Iowa State and I hope that Coach Matt Campbell proves that point.

Go Cyclones

Earle Bruce won several games

Conclusion - Iowa State coaches from Ohio can recruit Ohio kids - and be successful.

 

[cypack747]

No doubt and those areas are extremely talent rich - especially on the defensive side of the ball. Biggest problem will be telling them they won't be playing in the big 10....

I get that Ohio/Pennsylvania is Big 10 country, but maybe if we just show them any Big 10 schedule vs. our schedule it will push them in the right direction.

 

[boone7247]

It's obvious that MC was highered by Pollard due to his Ohio connections because he knows ISU is going to the B1G soon

You make a joke, but what if Pollard knows the B12 is going East soon, with Memphis, Cincinnati or something like that? would that change this hire in some of these doubters heads. I have no clue if that is happening, but the thought did cross my mind.

Also, CMC from what I can tell is fairly intelligent, and he just landed a job at a B12 school. I am guessing he had a good plan in that interview with JP, and now we are seeing it play out. If that involves having OH, PA and MI kids join the program then great. Why not.

 

[cyhiphopp]

I was wanting Navy's coach to do something entirely different than the rest of the league. I'm on board with the Campbell hire now. Part of me wonders if recruiting Ohio and Pennsylvania might be enough of a difference to make a difference. Yes, we will still want to get into Texas but being able to find guys that Ohio State and Michigan passed over and no one else in the Big 12 may be on to might lead to an increase in talent.

A lot of these guys who can't get into Big10 schools end up going to MAC schools. That's why a lot of them have been so good in recent years. If MC and Co can convince them to come play in the Big12 that would be great for us. MAC schools have put a LOT of guys in the NFL in recent years.

 

[SpokaneCY]

How about can these guys recruit Big12 talent? Who gives a **** where they are from.

They have historically out-recruited ISU so they can go after kids whereever the damn hell they want.

 

[Wesley]

Jesus, we are gutting Toledo.

My my initial worry was because of a Chiz memory. But stepped back a bit and am interested in learning more.

They won the game, we won the war.

 

[ISUCubswin]

Tired of the random Sturdy comments. Dude was trash.

To average 2.8 points a quarter in the second half, and 1.75 points a quarter in the second half of every loss, just screams find a new job.

 

[SpokaneCY]

Hey, if we can pull away an impact player here and there from Ohio, I'm all for it. I just feel people on here thinking Ohio can now be a recruiting focus are kidding themselves.

Look up and down the Big XII rosters..not a lot of impact players from Ohio to be found...

Yet Toledo has been really, really good with Ohio players.

You'd much rather be a crappy school with the traditional Texas and Florida recruits, wouldn't you? Fits your tiny box much better.