Stormin:
What were Coe's scrapes with the law that got him kicked off the team?
Coe was dismissed because he wouldn't go to class. He was a team cancer. We've discussed that. If you remember right, Iowa would not offer Coe a scholarship after JUCO because of his attitude/character. Not a legal issue. Rhoads had already given him a longer leash than anyone other than maybe Irving with his law troubles and it was effecting the entire team. It caused Jensen to quit. Anyway, Rhoads is not a saint for kicking a kid off the team who wouldn't go to class. That is not a disadvantage that ISU has against other schools.
I knew that Irving was dismissed from the team. Was not aware that Irving was expelled from Iowa State. Perhaps you could link that article. Were other students expelled as well?
Here's an article that says the 9 students involved would face possible expulsion, although I would guess that without a scholarship for the fall semester Irving just didn't come back anyway and the formal process was not required. I don't know though. http://www.iowastatedaily.com/sports/article_09eed81c-c1b2-11e3-9af6-001a4bcf887a.html
Interesting that you condemn me for not posting negativity about Iowa State Football and claim that I am spreading propaganda. And your constant negativity does NOT help Iowa State do well. It is just complaining. Other than complain, what do you do to help ISU football?
You can post whatever you want. What I see you doing is constantly arguing with posters about how nothing is actually Rhoads' fault. How he is so disadvantaged at ISU and how we can never expect more than 3 or 4 wins a year. How nothing that has gone wrong can be put on Rhoads, you can't blame anyone for anything. Just don't spew all that BS. Nevermind that Paul Rhoads has the best facilities relative to our piers that ISU has ever had. New $5 million scoreboard, new $23 million practice facility, new $50 million SEZ coming in to sell recruits, fans selling out games until the last 25% of a 5-19 run, ect. He'll get one more year for non football reasons, but it's a contract issue more than anything. And maybe he'll come out of nowhere and we'll go to a bowl, but I wouldn't bet on it and at this moment despite that being something that I desperately want.
I am not really interested in placing blame for our problems. You seem to think that firing Rhoads will solve all our problems. Name all the great successful football coaches we have had at Iowa State in the last 35 years.
Well that explains a lot. You constantly insist that people talking about the reality of ISU football is "not helping Iowa State", but you won't say it is hurting it either. That's because it doesn't matter! It is irrelevant. None of this matters. It's a message board for entertainment. You don't post facts or solid arguments to support your opinions, you just spout off about how bad ISU historically is and how we will always be that bad no matter the coach so let's just keep Rhoads. I'm not going to take a vow of silence for an entire year while our coach is a lame duck just because you think it's "not helping Iowa State".
You said Irving was
expelled from ISU. Irving was dismissed from the ISU Football Team. Completely different from being expelled from ISU.
As far as Coe is concerned. Coe was an Iowa recruit that did not qualify academically. At that time Coe was a Running Back. Coe outgrew his position and became a Defensive End and potentially a Defensive Tackle at Iowa Western. I have yet to hear that it was character issues that led to Iowa not recruiting him. IMO, it had more to do with him not qualifying originally with grades and position change. Iowa State has had recruits not qualify academically. In general, when they have issues with academically not qualifying as a signed commitment Iowa State moves on and does not offer them again. So it is an academic issue.
I have repeatedly said that the decision has been made that CPR will coach Iowa State Football next fall. So just quit with the constant Rhoads should be fired talk. Take a chill pill and see how next season turns out. Pollard will make a decision after next season.
You have NO IDEA as to what our record will be this next fall. You admit that. Yet you constantly post how our football team is hopelessly lost if Rhoads is our coach. All I have said is that complaining does NOT help. The negativity does not help. The reality of ISU football is that we have had two poor seasons and the coaching staff is trying to get some impact recruits to help our team. The jury is out whether they will be the solution or not. So all I am saying is to sit back and WAIT to see how the season develops.
Firing Rhoads will not necessarily lead to improvement in our football program. Understand that we have fired many coaches since Earle Bruce left us for Ohio State over 35 years ago. We seem to be still looking for our long term coach. And the jury is still out on CPR. Can he get this program back on track or not? None of us know for sure.
We now have improvements that at least bring us closer to our competition in the Big 12. Improvements that most of our competition has had for years. That will help.
I don't mind constructive criticism of our football team. Fine. But the constant talk that we are going to suck again this fall and the constant repeating that Rhoads needs to be fired, repeated ad nauseam, just needs to stop.
