*** Official Texas Vs #20 IOWA STATE Game(Day) Thread ***

[madguy30]

Someone els is in and makes a One or two point blank layups you don’t even need a shot to seal the deal. Why wouldn’t I think Talley is good enough to get a bucket if it’s needed? Just curious if you were cool with people crying to get Wigginton out of the game as well? Shayok played the most shot the most and wasn’t productive. It was just a bad game but I really don’t think he should be the one guy who can’t leave the court when nothing is going his way.

This is hilarious. I guess I should have been calling for Montgomery or Butler to be pulled from football games because they weren't productive for 3 quarters.

I was fine with LW being in. He was getting in to the lane a bit and causing Texas's zone to respond which was needed. Let some stuff go on defense but ISU's perimeter was leaky yesterday as a whole.

Oh, and he hit a 3 and one when ISU needed it.

So, two guys that have proven to be able to score in bunches, had off days, and then ended up hitting the shots to win. Weird.

 

[madguy30]

My problem is when he passes up a wide open 3 or when he gets in the lane for an easy layup/floater he's passing them up and some of them the shot he's passing up is easier than the shot he's passing to.

To be fair Lindell is doing this to and it's driving me nuts.

I've said all season I'd hope TH tries more to get to the rim or put up a floater when he gets in there. His jump pass also makes me a little nervous.

I only saw his state title game last year and he wasn't ultra aggressive then either so maybe it's just not his thing.

But it's really my one knocks on him which aren't major problems.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Just checking in to make sure we still won the game. I’m having some doubts about what every media/sports entity is telling me after reading some of this drivel post game.

 

[IASTATE07]

Just checking in to make sure we still won the game. I’m having some doubts about what every media/sports entity is telling me after reading some of this drivel post game.

Score wise we did. Checkers, chess, coaching, and playing we lost which sucks.

 

[Cyched]

Score wise we did. Checkers, chess, coaching, and playing we lost which sucks.

Those are just numbers tho

 

[Cyclonepride]

This is hilarious. I guess I should have been calling for Montgomery or Butler to be pulled from football games because they weren't productive for 3 quarters.

I was fine with LW being in. He was getting in to the lane a bit and causing Texas's zone to respond which was needed. Let some stuff go on defense but ISU's perimeter was leaky yesterday as a whole.

Oh, and he hit a 3 and one when ISU needed it.

So, two guys that have proven to be able to score in bunches, had off days, and then ended up hitting the shots to win. Weird.

I agree with 95% of that, but one note on the “leaky” defense: I think it should be noted that we shaded toward protecting against the lob off the pick and roll, which gives them a better chance on the drive. That’s a calculated risk, and since we held them to 60, I’d say it worked.

 

[madguy30]

Score wise we did. Checkers, chess, coaching, and playing we lost which sucks.

FWIW it seemed like ISU did a good enough job on the biggest worry (Texas's bigs) and made it so Roach had to have an above average game, which he did to his credit.

Average games from two ISU players and the bench would have been cleared yesterday.

 

[madguy30]

I agree with 95% of that, but one note on the “leaky” defense: I think it should be noted that we shaded toward protecting against the lob off the pick and roll, which gives them a better chance on the drive. That’s a calculated risk, and since we held them to 60, I’d say it worked.

I agree with that and just noted ISU held their bigs in check which was key.

Just a few times it seemed it was beyond the calculated aspect.

 

[cyrocksmypants]

Also, two straight games LW has drilled a three pointer he was fouled on, right? I know he was fouled twice shooting threes agains WVU, and I’m pretty sure he made one, didn’t he?

 

[madguy30]

Also, two straight games LW has drilled a three pointer he was fouled on, right? I know he was fouled twice shooting threes agains WVU, and I’m pretty sure he made one, didn’t he?

Yep, WV one was in first half and Saturday...wasn't it tied when he hit it? Going up 3 and then 4 in that situation was key.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

The thing with free throws are: I feel more confident in our guys than really ever before, and lately we’ve done a nice job overall.
Prohm in the post game with Blum and Walters said he wasn’t happy with our missed FTs yesterday (we were 11-14 for 79%).
It’s awesome that he continues the push for improvement.

Its not the percentage of free throws that we make or miss, but when we are doing it. Players like Wigginton, and Babb are great FT shooters until the pressure is on them it seems. The first 47 minutes are nice hitting foul shots, the last 3 minutes are critical. That is when they are missing them. Was nice to see Shayok, who was having an off night, step to the line yesterday and drill both of his in crunch time.

 

[madguy30]

Its not the percentage of free throws that we make or miss, but when we are doing it. Players like Wigginton, and Babb are great FT shooters until the pressure is on them it seems. The first 47 minutes are nice hitting foul shots, the last 3 minutes are critical. That is when they are missing them. Was nice to see Shayok, who was having an off night, step to the line yesterday and drill both of his in crunch time.

Wigginton was 2/3 yesterday including making it after the big 3.

NWB shot one free throw late and missed, but I'm still confident in him considering he hit two huge other shots late.

Free throws count the entire game. Ask Michigan State.

 

[cyrocksmypants]

Its not the percentage of free throws that we make or miss, but when we are doing it. Players like Wigginton, and Babb are great FT shooters until the pressure is on them it seems. The first 47 minutes are nice hitting foul shots, the last 3 minutes are critical. That is when they are missing them. Was nice to see Shayok, who was having an off night, step to the line yesterday and drill both of his in crunch time.

Isn’t Wiggi only like a 70% ft shooter? I don’t know if I’d call that great, especially for a guard.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

Isn’t Wiggi only like a 70% ft shooter? I don’t know if I’d call that great, especially for a guard.

He is currently at 73.6% and Babb is at 74.5%, both are very good rates for guards, not elite, but decent. Like I said above, neither is a good FT shooter down the stretch, we saw that in the Baylor game and the KSU game.

I have said all year, for us to win the conference title and advance in the tournament, we need to improve on 2 things, rebounding and late game foul shooting. I would also like to see us drive towards the hoop a little more instead of hosting up quick 3's, but whatever.

 

[cdface]

He is currently at 73.6% and Babb is at 74.5%, both are very good rates for guards, not elite, but decent. Like I said above, neither is a good FT shooter down the stretch, we saw that in the Baylor game and the KSU game.

two of those things are not like the other...

 

[moneyball]

Our team shoots 73% FTs on the year. I looked at the last 5 minutes of the 6 conference games that weren't blowouts, and we shot 68% FTs. Not sure that is evidence of a problem with late game foul shooting. I suspect if we looked across all teams, they shoot slightly worse in the last 5 minutes due to fatigue. More likely is the case that the 32% we miss in the final 5 minutes stand out in our memory more and gives the impression it is a problem.

He is currently at 73.6% and Babb is at 74.5%, both are very good rates for guards, not elite, but decent. Like I said above, neither is a good FT shooter down the stretch, we saw that in the Baylor game and the KSU game.

I have said all year, for us to win the conference title and advance in the tournament, we need to improve on 2 things, rebounding and late game foul shooting. I would also like to see us drive towards the hoop a little more instead of hosting up quick 3's, but whatever.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

Our team shoots 73% FTs on the year. I looked at the last 5 minutes of the 6 conference games that weren't blowouts, and we shot 68% FTs. Not sure that is evidence of a problem with late game foul shooting. I suspect if we looked across all teams, they shoot slightly worse in the last 5 minutes due to fatigue. More likely is the case that the 32% we miss in the final 5 minutes stand out in our memory more and gives the impression it is a problem.

Well our coach mentioned the missed FT after the game Saturday, so he must think we have a problem there. Against KSU we missed at least 4, one of those a one on one because we were not in the double bonus. How many points did we loose the KSU game by? I think it was one. We did the same thing against Baylor, missing FT's.

Yes, they are tired at the end of the game, but end of game free throws either seal the deal for a team, or leaves the door open for the opposition. If this is not true, then why does every coach in the country want their best foul shooter at the line at the end of the game, and why do most coaches take out the poor FT shooters. I mean those points count just as much early in the game as they do late. Why not leave Lard in there Saturday during the last minute? Because he is not a good foul shooter.

 

[SCyclone]

Talent rescues a sub par in game coach again.

Thanks to those of you who were able to "Dumb" this comment. I wanted to but don't have the technology.

 

[SCyclone]

Well our coach mentioned the missed FT after the game Saturday, so he must think we have a problem there. Against KSU we missed at least 4, one of those a one on one because we were not in the double bonus. How many points did we loose the KSU game by? I think it was one. We did the same thing against Baylor, missing FT's.

Yes, they are tired at the end of the game, but end of game free throws either seal the deal for a team, or leaves the door open for the opposition. If this is not true, then why does every coach in the country want their best foul shooter at the line at the end of the game, and why do most coaches take out the poor FT shooters. I mean those points count just as much early in the game as they do late. Why not leave Lard in there Saturday during the last minute? Because he is not a good foul shooter.

Cameron Lard
13 10.5 3.5 2.2 64.4 0.9 0.7 75.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 5.2 0.9 1.0 1.9 0.5 0.0 1.4 0.4 2.9

If 75% is not good, what is?

 

[SCyclone]

It was me. I was trying to sabotage Prohm to get a certain someone else the job.

Well, we all know you're looking for work, Erik.