It is subject to booth review if you read the link - provides CYA for the refs.
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New helmet-to-helmet rule...
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It is subject to booth review if you read the link - provides CYA for the refs.
Yes everyone, there would be reviews according to the article. i think this is a bad idea, i'm fine with personal foul call in this situation, but ejection is a little severe. imagine having Knott kicked out of a game last year for something like that? How that would affect the outcome of the game. oh yeah, we did have to play without him last season, that really went well. football is a sport of collisons and human momentum, it isn't always possible to tackle everyone perfectly. if the player did not intentionally hit opponent head to head does he really deserve to be kicked out of the game? Maybe, if it happens twice in the game, but if you get 2 personal fouls in a game you get kicked out anyways as Leonard Johnson proved during the UNLV game his freshman year. Don't like it at all, just put flags on everyone i guess.
I disagree. If football is going to survive it needs to get back to being a contact sport. If someone is worried about getting hurt there are plenty of other sports that person can play.
Ding Ding exactly.
Most of the time the defender is in good tackling position and the juke that the ball carrier makes distorts the position of the defender
Do you think it is wise for a football player to drop his head down and ram it into another player (whether done by offense or defense)?
There is contact, and then there is stupid contact...
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football is still a contact sport. Nobody is banning contact, just unnecessarily dangerous hits. The game evolves. Football is more popular now than it's ever been.
They probably could clean this up just as much by flagging offensive players who lower their head into a tackling player's helmet. That is just as dangerous but as far as I know has never been called.
What if one of our players was injured and couldn't play for weeks because a defender intentionally lead with his head and wasn't flagged for it?
Definitely this. If the offensive player drops into it, it shouldnt be a penalty on the defense.
In high school it is illegal (offensive spearing) and does get called occasionally.
Rules to implement:
1) Offensive spearing at the college level
2) Not contact to the facemask of defenders when stiff arming. I hate that damn rule. I can stiff arm the guy's facemask when I have the ball but if he accidentally touches mine it's 15 yards.
1) Offensive spearing at the college level
2) Not contact to the facemask of defenders when stiff arming. I hate that damn rule. I can stiff arm the guy's facemask when I have the ball but if he accidentally touches mine it's 15 yards.
while I think they should change the stiff arm rule, defenders don't get called for accidentally grabbing the facemask anymore
This is exactly right..a good % of the time, the offensive guy lowers his head at the last second, and the defender gets flagged.
That's why it's a reviewable penalty. It's only reviewable if the flag is thrown. Once the flag is thrown, the booth will review to either confirm or overturn the call on the field. So, if the offensive player "ducks into" the defender the flag can be waived off and the defender will not be ejected. I don't have a problem with this.
^^^ I don't know. I can see an offensive player lowering his head to prepare for the hit, but don't think an offensive player is going to throw his head in the way of a defender with the intent to draw a penalty. I don't think that deserves a penalty just an a defender who makes incidental contact deserves a penalty.
Remember, the penalty is mean to punish those who purposely target another player's head. The penalty is for targeting, not helmet-to-helmet contact.
Remember, the penalty is mean to punish those who purposely target another player's head. The penalty is for targeting, not helmet-to-helmet contact.
I'd prefer this to be reviewable after the game than in-game. If a guy is judged guilty, he sits the first half of the next game. That reduces the chance of BS ejections.
One interesting idea I heard on the Dan Patrick show this week that I actually kind of liked: Instead of a 15 yard penalty for personal fouls, why not do it like hockey and make the guilty player sit out for a set amount of time or plays while his team plays a man down? To me, that sounds like a win-win from the NFL's perspective: You come up with a punishment that might actually serve as a deterrent, and you get a more wide-open game when guys get flagged for a PF.
One interesting idea I heard on the Dan Patrick show this week that I actually kind of liked: Instead of a 15 yard penalty for personal fouls, why not do it like hockey and make the guilty player sit out for a set amount of time or plays while his team plays a man down? To me, that sounds like a win-win from the NFL's perspective: You come up with a punishment that might actually serve as a deterrent, and you get a more wide-open game when guys get flagged for a PF.
