Kempt is great...but....

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Roll with Kempt for now, then a QB battle for the starting spot when Park gets back from his suspension.
 

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The team has been playing well, including solid performances by Kempt, but we'll need Park to come back to have a good year imo.

When the defense starts to compress the field, not only taking away easy passes but also DM, we'll see how Kempt responds. Also, we've had a lot of good luck in regards to INTs and lack of drops against OU and KU.

Kempt needs reps, but it would have been nice to get Noland more time yesterday.
 
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The team has been playing well, including solid performances by Kempt, but we'll need Park that come back to have a good year imo.

When the defense starts to compress the field, not only taking away easy passes but also DM, we'll see how Kempt responds. Also, we've had a lot of good luck in regards to INTs and lack of drops against OU and KU.

I agree with a lot of what you are saying. But the lack of drops could be due to the type of ball that Kempt throws.
 
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I think you guys need to take a step back and analyze it differently. I’m not saying and have never said arm talent/natural skill is the be all end all. The problem is Kempt historically has been bad not just burried behind good QBs. Correct me if I’m wrong but he played at Oregon State who is just as if not worse than us over the past few years. Then he went Juco and didn’t play there. Now he is here as a walk on. I’m thrilled with how he has played but that doesn’t mean he can be equated to guys like Brady. That is just stupid.

I’m not saying you make a change unless Park were to be back but quarterback has gone from a strength to a concern. It is fair for people to be worried. We don’t have the physical skill and are relying on gameplanning/taking what’s there. Historically we aren’t a team that can get away with that much.

Kempt signed with Oregon State out of high school. Oregon State was a helluva lot better program than Iowa State when Kempt signed with them. Kempt left when Mike Riley left. Oregon State didn't suck when Kempt signed or in Kempt's first two years there. Mike Riley left for Nebraska and that is when Kempt left. Don't see how you can pass judgement on a true Freshman and true Sophomore who didn't get to play at that point in their career.

No one is saying he is Brady. Kempt is a quarterback who is playing within his abilities and making good decisions. At this point, we don't need a gambling gunslinger at Quarterback. It seemed that was what Park was morphing to. We were living and dying on his success. We are back to relying on Montgomery and taking scripted calculated risks. It is working. When something is working then you don't mess with it. That is all anyone is saying.

I remember Johnny Orr talking about walk on Jeff Hornacek. Johnny said Jeff was not the most talented kid. But he had solid fundamentals and good decision making. And he seemed to have eyes on the back of his head. Hornacek supplanted those who were higher ranked recruits and became a fixture because the team was better with him in the lineup. Hornacek' s jersey hangs in Hilton.

Not saying Kempt is that type of player. But this team is winning and seems to have rallied and gelled under his leadership. Team is what matters. Kempt stays in lineup as long as he and the team do well.
 

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This thread only proves that we'll all never be happy on here, that's for sure.

Kempt won AT #3 Oklahoma, and followed that up by beating KU 45-0 in adverse weather conditions..... yet we have people calling for someone else?? Wut?

How about this..... we play with what we have. Right now we have Kempt and Noland. Park is not even on the team right now. He took a leave of absence.
That first sentence can be a part of nearly every thread about every sport we play. I'm continually amazed at the number of posters that are obsessed with pointing out all the bad things about our teams and players. Hell, we could go 13-0 and some of these new posters will find something to ***** about.
 

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Kempt got caught in a coaching change at OSU. FWIW Sean Mannion (currently with the LA Rams) was the starter at OSU when he got there. Not fair to say he "wasn't good enough" to start.
 
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Let's see no turnovers in two games, cooler head in the pocket stays in the pocket and throws a ball our play makers can catch. the coaches are rolling with him so we should too, just like Park when he was the starter. With the ****** conditions on the field he did his job.
Anyone else see the play where Kempt looked right at a wide open receiver on third and short, and then threw long to well covered side line. Seemed like a Kempt anomaly.
 

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Kempt signed with Oregon State out of high school. Oregon State was a helluva lot better program than Iowa State when Kempt signed with them. Kempt left when Mike Riley left. Oregon State didn't suck when Kempt signed or in Kempt's first two years there. Mike Riley left for Nebraska and that is when Kempt left. Don't see how you can pass judgement on a true Freshman and true Sophomore who didn't get to play at that point in their career.

No one is saying he is Brady. Kempt is a quarterback who is playing within his abilities and making good decisions. At this point, we don't need a gambling gunslinger at Quarterback. It seemed that was what Park was morphing to. We were living and dying on his success. We are back to relying on Montgomery and taking scripted calculated risks. It is working. When something is working then you don't mess with it. That is all anyone is saying.

I remember Johnny Orr talking about walk on Jeff Hornacek. Johnny said Jeff was not the most talented kid. But he had solid fundamentals and good decision making. And he seemed to have eyes on the back of his head. Hornacek supplanted those who were higher ranked recruits and became a fixture because the team was better with him in the lineup. Hornacek' s jersey hangs in Hilton.

Not saying Kempt is that type of player. But this team is winning and seems to have rallied and gelled under his leadership. Team is what matters. Kempt stays in lineup as long as he and the team do well.

Just to miss the point completely, I'd like to add that Kempt's jersey will never hang in Hilton.
 

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I agree with a lot of what you are saying. But the lack of drops could be due to the type of ball that Kempt throws.
iSu WRs have been dropping balls for years. YEARS! Butler had a drop yesterday. The only reason there are fewer drops is because we are throwing the ball less. In two games, Kempt has attempted as many passes as Park did against iowa.

I mean c'mon...the most passes he has attempted in a game is 24. He is asked to manage the game and not lose it. He does a good job.

Manning has done a great job(Texas being the exception). The guy works miracles with game plans utilizing strengths. Smoke and mirrors
 
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iSu WRs have been dropping balls for years. YEARS! Butler had a drop yesterday. The only reason there are fewer drops is because we are throwing the ball less. In two games, Kempt has attempted as many passes as Park did against iowa.

I mean c'mon...the most passes he has attempted in a game is 24. He is asked to manage the game and not lose it. He does a good job.

Manning has done a great job(Texas being the exception). The guy works miracles with game plans utilizing strengths. Smoke and mirrors

Gee. And we won those two games.
 

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iSu WRs have been dropping balls for years. YEARS! Butler had a drop yesterday. The only reason there are fewer drops is because we are throwing the ball less. In two games, Kempt has attempted as many passes as Park did against iowa.

I mean c'mon...the most passes he has attempted in a game is 24. He is asked to manage the game and not lose it. He does a good job.

Manning has done a great job(Texas being the exception). The guy works miracles with game plans utilizing strengths. Smoke and mirrors

Right, and how many dropped balls were there in just the Iowa game? It seems like a lot.

How many dropped balls has Kempt had?

My only point was that I think it is possible that it isn't just luck that Kempt hasn't had many dropped balls. It might be partly because of the way he throws the ball.
 

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Right, and how many dropped balls were there in just the Iowa game? It seems like a lot.

How many dropped balls has Kempt had?

My only point was that I think it is possible that it isn't just luck that Kempt hasn't had many dropped balls. It might be partly because of the way he throws the ball.
Like I said...iSu WRs have been dropping balls for YEARS!!!! The biggest rip on Lazard BEFORE the season was his drops. Parks has only been his fulltime QB this year. Butler had drops last year and it didn't matter if it was Lazard or Park.
Kempt has had three drops in two games and 44 attempts.
4 drops against iowa with 46 attempts.
2 drops against Texas with 49 attempts.

Kempt also doesn't throw across the middle as much where a lot of drops happens
 

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Right, and how many dropped balls were there in just the Iowa game? It seems like a lot.

How many dropped balls has Kempt had?

My only point was that I think it is possible that it isn't just luck that Kempt hasn't had many dropped balls. It might be partly because of the way he throws the ball.

Possible. Also possible that since plays are getting called for only two or so targets, receivers are better able to focus on specific plays they know they are likely to be targeted. Also, AL has been the worst offender for drops and he's been targeted about 50% less with Kempt as QB, so that would lower the number of drops.
 

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The team has been playing well, including solid performances by Kempt, but we'll need Park to come back to have a good year imo.

When the defense starts to compress the field, not only taking away easy passes but also DM, we'll see how Kempt responds. Also, we've had a lot of good luck in regards to INTs and lack of drops against OU and KU.

Kempt needs reps, but it would have been nice to get Noland more time yesterday.

This is not only dumb, but it shouldn't be posted.

You do understand that Park might not be back this year, and who knows if he'll be back next year either? You do understand that, right?

So according to your dumb statement above, if Park doesn't return, that means our season is lost then and won't be any good. I'm guessing CMC and the team doesn't feel that way, thank God.

Why would you even say that anyway? Yeah, there's no way we can win with a QB that beat OU on the road. Whatever.
 
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This year's offense was 22nd in the country in efficiency prior to today's game. Im not sure that will change much after today's game where we punted 9 times vs what I believe was a bottom 100 defense in KU. 22nd is amazing for ISU being that we were never top 50 with a downfield passing attack for the last decade. Kstate was 10th, 16th, 18th, 19th in 2012, 2013, 2014, 2016, respectively. I think Campbell is learning this lesson about ISU football and what it takes to win in the Big 12 at a disadvantaged program. Now I'm going to go do what I do - actually watch college football. Lots and lots of college football.

Not sure what's douchier -- the user name or this line:

"Now I'm going to go do what I do - actually watch college football. Lots and lots of college football."

This guy is bragging about watching games on TV. LOL
 
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Anyone else see the play where Kempt looked right at a wide open receiver on third and short, and then threw long to well covered side line. Seemed like a Kempt anomaly.

That was a frustrating play. Kempt stares way too long at his target. Can we just get Park with the game manager playbook?
 
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It's tough to improve on beating a Top 3 team on the road and a 45-0 drubbing. I say let's just ride this train until it derails, Park or no Park. If/when Kyle looks bad, make the switch.

If Trent Green hadn't gone down to injury, Kurt Warner may never have gotten a chance. Guys get overlooked sometimes until they are needed.

Roll with it!!
 

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The ****** thing is, even if Park comes back, say against TCU (best Defense in the conference) and has an average game, everyone will say that Kempt should be the starter which a majority of the ISU fans seem to enjoy.
 
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The ****** thing is, even if Park comes back, say against TCU (best Defense in the conference) and has an average game, everyone will say that Kempt should be the starter which a majority of the ISU fans seem to enjoy.

How is that different than a ton of people on here thinking that Kempt should have been benched this week if Park had been back?
 

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