Kempt is great...but....
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Th offensive line and blocking assignment misses were absolutely pathetic vs Texas. It’s like people listened to the announcers and thought “these guys are right Jacob Park just needs to calm down and stop overthrowing every pass and sit in the pocket” like the Texas pass rush was non existent. It was weird.
I understand that, but as many of us have said, Park is not even on the team right now, and who knows if he ever will be again at this point? None of us know.
Kempt came in and won at #3 OU, and then beat KU 45-0 (who cares what his stats were, winning is all that matters).
Let's say Park came back to the team today, IMO CMC would be crazy to start Park over Kempt at this point. Can you imagine if Park started this week and lost what the fan reaction would be? You can't ruin what you have going right now.
Now.... if Kempt started and looked horrible in the 1st half, then sure, maybe you bring Park in to start the 2nd half to see if he can add a spark.
I just see the team reacting a whole lot different to Kempt than they did with Park, and vice versa too. Kempt sits with the team, laughs with them, talks to them, etc..... and Park often sat by himself and just kept to himself, which might just be how he is, so it might not be a bad thing, it's just noticeably different IMO.
I would love to see Park get healthy and come back with a whole new mindset and eventually win his spot back, but right now he isn't even on the team, so Kempt deserves ALL our support right now.
And heres the thing: I haven't advocated against Kempt at all. I'm incredibly happy with how he's performed and how we've done as a team, people can feel free to review my past posts to confirm.
It's just amazing how people will use these mental gymnastics to create an alternate reality where Park does all of these things that he doesn't do in reality just to try to make a case for Kempt.
It's like they're taking his last game, which was by FAR his worst game of his career, and extrapolating it out to his entire career instead of looking at his career as a whole and what's he's done.
Or, could that mean Kempt is better at progressions? I don't know that, I'm asking the question. Today Kempt has completed 71 percent of his passes, not bad for a new starter. Perhaps he sees the field better than Park? Again, I'm asking, I don't know the answer.
I’m in for Kempt too right now but with the mixture of no running plays called after the first quarter and the terrible line play and an overwhelmingly more aggressive and athletic Texas defensive game plan no QB was going to look good on that night.
Myself, mostly I'm ignoring the argument because at the moment the argument is irrelevant: Park isn't playing, Kempt is playing. I'm not going to worry about upside or what could be until both Park and Kempt are competing for the starting job.
Right now, as far as any one of us knows, it's Kempt and Noland for the duration.
Kempt hasn't been really given any playcalling where he's had to read progressions past the first couple of options yet.
Kempt did complete 65 percent of his passes against KU. To me, that seems reasonable on such a weather day.
And, as a bonus, Kempt did not throw an interception or lose a fumble. KU loaded the box with a front four that others have said is as good as any in the Big 12.
Job well done.
I completely agree with you that Park isn't being judged very fairly. He played very well in his first 3 games, and against Texas it was the game plan that destroyed him, not his playing ability. However, you also can't just ignore that his bad INT against Iowa might have cost us that game, and although the game plan was horrible against Texas, he did throw 3 INT's in that game that could have been the difference too.
I'm not saying Kempt would have done any better in the same situations that Park was in, but we also can't act like Park is without fault either. The amount of double teams that Park would throw into was crazy. And we all know he has issues with throwing the ball high too. Someone on here, very early in the season, commented how Park has an issue with his delivery that can cause the ball to sail high, and thought it needed to be addressed.
Park is a very good QB, but I think as someone else said, his ceiling is higher than Kempt, but his basement is lower than Kempt too possibly.
But again, Park isn't on this team anymore, so the point is kinda moot. If, or when, he makes it back to the team, then the argument can begin, but I'll just say that I think CMC would be nuts to derail this train right now with inserting a new QB. Just let this train ride until it starts going off the rails.... then you might have to make a decision.
This is either hilarious or pathetic. Kempt is the QB until CMC says otherwise. I am a fan and my opinion of team positions and all other things football are worth sh*t! First - whoever is calling for Roland needs to read a roster- it is Noland! Second - T Swift and Selena Gomez are hot and I am old as dirt! Third - We can beat anybody left on the schedule - stop being CyBabies of old and give these guys some credit. I have said immensely stupid stuff on here as if I know anything - my apologies to the staff and the team. You guys look and play like a Power 5 team should to me. It has been refreshing to see a team that stacks up against the league and is not intimidated - yes TexAss was horrendous - it happens. So - all my opinion! I can say it was fabulous in the rain yesterday being on the other side of a beat down! I don't know if we will win again this year but the odds are better than they were before - why not expect them to be? I am looking to go bowling - when I bought my season ticket that was not the case - it may end up as a dream. So what? If being a Cyclone were easy we would be like the team out east! Screw that - bandwagons are not for us - we follow a higher standard! GO CYCLONES!
Who has said that?! I can't think of any credible person that would say anything on that Kansas team is good enough to be considered the best in the conference.
I think the biggest thing I take out of this post is that YES, we can beat every team left on our schedule... we've proven that. No more talk of.... "well, we won't beat TCU, or OSU, but we possibly could beat Baylor or KSU". Nope. We as fans, and as a team, should go into every game thinking we can win.
That's what I love about CMC the most. He celebrated the OU win, but said it didn't make our season. And any talk of getting to 6 wins is just garbage talk to him too. That's not the goal. They have bigger aspirations.
I remember Rhoads actually saying that making a bowl game was the goal. That's fine, but why limit yourself to that?
Maybe that's the key to success for us? Maybe we were making the game too complicated for Park?
When Park took the leave of absence, the coaches decided to start Kempt and obviously felt like they had to give him a simple game plan that he could come in and execute right away. And we took that to OU and won.
So maybe simplifying things for Park would help him too? I for one think it would. Kempt seems to have so many more easy dump off options, or quick screens than we ever gave Park. It was as if because Park had this huge arm that we had our route trees all going deep and we didn't give Park any dump offs?
I think you guys need to take a step back and analyze it differently. I’m not saying and have never said arm talent/natural skill is the be all end all. The problem is Kempt historically has been bad not just burried behind good QBs. Correct me if I’m wrong but he played at Oregon State who is just as if not worse than us over the past few years. Then he went Juco and didn’t play there. Now he is here as a walk on. I’m thrilled with how he has played but that doesn’t mean he can be equated to guys like Brady. That is just stupid.
I’m not saying you make a change unless Park were to be back but quarterback has gone from a strength to a concern. It is fair for people to be worried. We don’t have the physical skill and are relying on gameplanning/taking what’s there. Historically we aren’t a team that can get away with that much.
CMC before the game on Cyclone Radio Network. He did not say the front four were good, he said it was probably as good as any front four in the league (iirc). Can't recall who or where, but I think I recall someone else saying it yesterday, too.
Maybe coach-speak, but seems to me he could have said KU's front four was good without adding as good as any in the league. CMC is credible, right?
When our run game wasn't going much yesterday, I kept thinking about the KU front four comments, which tells me (if not you ;-) that the remarks were made.
Yup!
Kempt is doing what he’s doing because of Manning’s play calling. Our playbook is so much more wide open with Park.
Once Park is back and healthy, we need him. Kemptisnt able to get out there and progress through 4 WRs. Re watch the game, a lot of staring down or sitting in the pocket waiting for his receiver to break and be open.
You guys are all delusional and don’t know football if you’re calling for Kempt to be our starter for the rest of the year IF Park is back healthy.
Oh. well, they can speculate all they want, but he's done.
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