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When I was in 7th grade, every boy in my class went out for football. We played 11 man with 13 kids
Funny thing is that school keeps bragging about how much they are growing. To justify spending $2Mil+ on 2 new rooms for the daycare. And other unneeded expansions, like a new lunch room and science room and home ec room, where they have eliminated a lot of science offerings, or bring in teachers for things like chemistry from another school, that is more worried about that other schools Volleyball team than teaching chem, let alone ever doing an experiment, that needs to utilize any special equipment, bragged about in the new expansion. Hell they are building a fancy HomeEc room, a class they eliminated for several years, and now is getting a huge new commercial set up.

Yet their Beds numbers are not moving very much, and they go back 15 years to when the next community over closed 2 small outlying schools, that cause a small jump in enrollment because of those communities open enrolling.

Outside of those jumps which were almost 15 years ago, I dont think there really has been much increase. Last I checked classes were still mostly if not all below 30 kids, which is almost half what it was in the 90s.

I have seen a lot of bad decisions made in that town over the last decade from the school to the city council, which they all resigned including the Mayor now too. Built that fancy new secondary gym and didnt even put a small set of bleachers on one side, so no place for spectators. Dumb. Im all for expansion and building what is needed, but doing things not needed, in a town and school that is barely surviving is not a good plan, then building things half assed instead of doing it right is worse.
 
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Well the CRCSD just paid $150,000 an acre for PRIME retail development land to put a school on off Edgewood Road, so...

I’m not 100% sure that land off tiny Ushers Ferry Road (with no direct connection to Highway 100, surrounded by homes and pasture land) is all that “prime” for retail development.

Did the school overpay? Maybe. But that doesn’t look like an attractive spot for retail to me.
 

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Funny thing is that school keeps bragging about how much they are growing. To justify spending $2Mil+ on 2 new rooms for the daycare. And other unneeded expansions, like a new lunch room and science room and home ec room, where they have eliminated a lot of science offerings, or bring in teachers for things like chemistry from another school, that is more worried about that other schools Volleyball team than teaching chem, let alone ever doing an experiment, that needs to utilize any special equipment, bragged about in the new expansion. Hell they are building a fancy HomeEc room, a class they eliminated for several years, and now is getting a huge new commercial set up.

Yet their Beds numbers are not moving very much, and they go back 15 years to when the next community over closed 2 small outlying schools, that cause a small jump in enrollment because of those communities open enrolling.

Outside of those jumps which were almost 15 years ago, I dont think there really has been much increase. Last I checked classes were still mostly if not all below 30 kids, which is almost half what it was in the 90s.

I have seen a lot of bad decisions made in that town over the last decade from the school to the city council, which they all resigned including the Mayor now too. Built that fancy new secondary gym and didnt even put a small set of bleachers on one side, so no place for spectators. Dumb. Im all for expansion and building what is needed, but doing things not needed, in a town and school that is barely surviving is not a good plan, then building things half assed instead of doing it right is worse.
That community has always been ruled by it's little cliques and behaved in a very provincial way.

That said, I'm surprised that the school has held on as long as it has and hasn't really gotten any smaller (which is related to a point I made in a different thread). There were around 30 kids in my class, and I think at one point it got down to under 20. As long as it stays in that size range, it's lack of an obvious consolidator will keep it around (I suspect).

But yeah, your point definitely stands regarding people in the western part of the neighboring district getting mad about closing the outlying elementary schools. That's not a sustainable long term source of enrollment because 10 years from now, no one with school age kids will care about that.
 
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It doesn't matter what class they have been with Wadle as the coach...they've went to Cedar Falls in 1A, A, and 8. I can't remember back far enough to remember the class they were but it's possible they went as a 2A school as well.
I don’t think they aren’t wanting to take the hit if they go up to 11 though. I don’t think they would go in 11 if they jumped up
 

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I can only answer with what happened to Davis Co when they bumped up from 2A to 3A when our youngest son was playing. The overall talent level difference was enormous, DC had been an Ok 2A team but they were completely outclassed in 3A, it was not just Keokuk that won the championship that season, every team we played not only had more kids, but more of everything. I came away thinking the gap between 2A and 3A is huge, much like the difference between most 3A and 4A schools. That gap is smaller between A and 1A, from what I have seen both coaching and observing.

They're is a significant gap in every class. Whatever the answer is on long travel, it shouldn't be restricting playoff bids to district champions only. Another thing to think about with four team districts is scheduling. If I'm at school A and I want to play school B and school C, because they are close, school B and C may not want to play me for different reasons. I may end up driving 2 hours to find somebody who wants to play my team. I don't think there really is a perfect answer to travel distance.
 

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South Tama just moved down to 2A for football, their closest game is 70 miles away (PCM - 1hr 13 min). Also play, Pella Christian - 1 hr 13 min drive, Albia - 1 hr 39 min, Davis County - 2 hr, Centerville 2 hr 6 min.

My kids went to DMC and a few years ago their district was DMC, Clarinda, Red Oak, Shenandoah, Atlantic and Greene County.
 

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It'll be interesting to watch Dike New Hartford's jump to 2A. Traditionally a strong 1A school making the jump up. They had 85 kids out for football this last fall. JV/Freshman teams completely obliterated their 1A counterparts this last fall and even went down to Williamsburg (3A) and beat them by two TD's. Their losses might still come from AP and Grundy Center this fall.
 

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They're is a significant gap in every class. Whatever the answer is on long travel, it shouldn't be restricting playoff bids to district champions only. Another thing to think about with four team districts is scheduling. If I'm at school A and I want to play school B and school C, because they are close, school B and C may not want to play me for different reasons. I may end up driving 2 hours to find somebody who wants to play my team. I don't think there really is a perfect answer to travel distance.
I agree that with football travel time should influence things far less. 4 or 5 road regular season games on Friday nights. With so few games I'd much rather have football be based on teams playing within the same class and/or reasonable competitiveness.

Now in basketball if you've got several long Tuesday night road trips, or baseball where you've got 40 games and a day includes BP, travel and a double-header, that's a lot bigger deal.

Worrying about travel with football districts seems like a waste of time. There are so few games, and they're on Friday nights. What's the big deal?
 
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I agree the state needs to eliminate one 11 man class, roll 1A and A into one group and then add a A and B classes in 8 man based on size. We currently have schools in 8 man with 50 kids out playing schools with 15 out for the sport.

Not sure the state can force schools to consolidate or share programs unless the state is going to start providing money to do so, which they are not, because most of that money is being used to send money to private schools.


That seems like a lot of work for a bunch of schools that have a decent chance of not existing in the next decade.
 

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They're is a significant gap in every class. Whatever the answer is on long travel, it shouldn't be restricting playoff bids to district champions only. Another thing to think about with four team districts is scheduling. If I'm at school A and I want to play school B and school C, because they are close, school B and C may not want to play me for different reasons. I may end up driving 2 hours to find somebody who wants to play my team. I don't think there really is a perfect answer to travel distance.
Really have coached in A, 1A and watching 2A games when my sons played, the difference between the classes at those levels is not large at all. Only the jump from 2A to 3A was it really noticeable in my opinion. You rarely ever saw D 1 talent on the smaller schools, but DC saw Tyler Sash from Osky and the QB from Keokuk that went to EIU. It was just a huge jump, not only in talent level, but just the number of kids in the programs from 2A to 3A. This was before the broke the larger schools in to 5A.

Most schools are going to find teams to play that are close by, and not have to travel a couple of hours for a non district game. Now that may require the Van Meters of the world to play up a class, but since it's a non district game and would not count in the playoff chase, it really would not matter.
 

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Orient-Macksburg just dissolved but was first district to do so in 10 years.
Does that include consolidating districts? While there is a difference, consolidation is essentially the same thing. When a small school cant continue to operate, most of the time they will look for another school to consolidate with instead of just dissolving. But the end result is the same, that district no longer exists on its own.

There has been a huge amount of consolidation in schools, especially smaller schools. Very few simply dissolve because it is the worst option in most cases.
 

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I agree that with football travel time should influence things far less. 4 or 5 road regular season games on Friday nights. With so few games I'd much rather have football be based on teams playing within the same class and/or reasonable competitiveness.

Now in basketball if you've got several long Tuesday night road trips, or baseball where you've got 40 games and a day includes BP, travel and a double-header, that's a lot bigger deal.

Worrying about travel with football districts seems like a waste of time. There are so few games, and they're on Friday nights. What's the big deal?
The problem isn't with Varsity for football it's the lower levels. A 5 hour round trip on a Tuesday night sucks, especially if you've got a kid like I did bouncing between JV and Varsity.
 

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The problem isn't with Varsity for football it's the lower levels. A 5 hour round trip on a Tuesday night sucks, especially if you've got a kid like I did bouncing between JV and Varsity.
Good point, the lower levels are often midweek and there’s usually a lot of kids dressing at multiple levels
 

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The problem isn't with Varsity for football it's the lower levels. A 5 hour round trip on a Tuesday night sucks, especially if you've got a kid like I did bouncing between JV and Varsity.
JV, freshmen and JH games are all set up separately for small school usually. So they generally play all fairly close. I know the bigger schools play freshman games before the Varsity so that could be an issue.
 

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just wait. Harrison County has a start up school HC Atheist.. they will be a powerhouse
 

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North Tama did end up dropping down to 8 Man, their AD mentioned they had been discussing it for a couple of years. Creates a nice little district there with GMG and GR close by.

3A District 2 has a fair amount of driving

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Solon is doing a lot of driving in District 4

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District 4 is basically the old SE 7 and then Solon sticks out out like a sore thumb.
 

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Really have coached in A, 1A and watching 2A games when my sons played, the difference between the classes at those levels is not large at all. Only the jump from 2A to 3A was it really noticeable in my opinion. You rarely ever saw D 1 talent on the smaller schools, but DC saw Tyler Sash from Osky and the QB from Keokuk that went to EIU. It was just a huge jump, not only in talent level, but just the number of kids in the programs from 2A to 3A. This was before the broke the larger schools in to 5A.

Most schools are going to find teams to play that are close by, and not have to travel a couple of hours for a non district game. Now that may require the Van Meters of the world to play up a class, but since it's a non district game and would not count in the playoff chase, it really would not matter.
Going back through old papers, in 1901, Keosauqua played Oskaloosa in football. That would have been a road trip back then.
 

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Does that include consolidating districts? While there is a difference, consolidation is essentially the same thing. When a small school cant continue to operate, most of the time they will look for another school to consolidate with instead of just dissolving. But the end result is the same, that district no longer exists on its own.

There has been a huge amount of consolidation in schools, especially smaller schools. Very few simply dissolve because it is the worst option in most cases.
So does the AEA determine new district boundaries for the surrounding districts?
 

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