Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"
I didn't think I was but I am trying to also respect both sides.
I didn't think I was but I am trying to also respect both sides.
Fennelly: "This is a hard place to recruit to"
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Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"
It seems like a huge obstacle, but than how in the hell did Kim Mulkey get Griner? You don't get much more "family" than Baylor.
It seems like a huge obstacle, but than how in the hell did Kim Mulkey get Griner? You don't get much more "family" than Baylor.
Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"
^^^^this. CPR saying it with his record would sound like excuse making. CBF saying it sounds like...it's a hurdle we have, but we do our best and I think we've done pretty well despite that.
^^^^this. CPR saying it with his record would sound like excuse making. CBF saying it sounds like...it's a hurdle we have, but we do our best and I think we've done pretty well despite that.
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I'd like to have a round table of the coaches and Pollard. Put them on Cyclone TV and have an open forum. Ask why it's so hard, we hear about it (so hard to recruit/compete) in football all of the time, but women's basketball is the first I've heard this.
I'm pretty sure it comes down to the cold and not much to do in the middle of Iowa, especially during the winter. I know we think our facilities are top notch, but I don't know what anybody else in the conference really has.
So it would be really interesting to see exactly what these coaches would need to be able to keep up with the Jones'.
I'd like to have a round table of the coaches and Pollard. Put them on Cyclone TV and have an open forum. Ask why it's so hard, we hear about it (so hard to recruit/compete) in football all of the time, but women's basketball is the first I've heard this.
I'm pretty sure it comes down to the cold and not much to do in the middle of Iowa, especially during the winter. I know we think our facilities are top notch, but I don't know what anybody else in the conference really has.
So it would be really interesting to see exactly what these coaches would need to be able to keep up with the Jones'.
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Brittney Griner says Baylor coach Kim Mulkey told players to keep quiet on sexuality - ESPN
Brittney Griner says Baylor coach Kim Mulkey told players to keep quiet on sexuality - ESPN
Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"
Yeah, I remember reading that article and just thinking, "What the ****?" Why would you want to play for someone like that. I can't pretend to understand how gay/lesbian players feel though. Maybe they are OK keeping it under the radar and off the front pages, I could certainly understand someone wanting to keep personal things private, but I'd think you'd want that to be your choice, not the coach's.
Yeah, I remember reading that article and just thinking, "What the ****?" Why would you want to play for someone like that. I can't pretend to understand how gay/lesbian players feel though. Maybe they are OK keeping it under the radar and off the front pages, I could certainly understand someone wanting to keep personal things private, but I'd think you'd want that to be your choice, not the coach's.
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Football is a different animal imo. In basketball ISU can be much more competitive with the Bigger schools than we have shown in football. Recruiting kids to Ames for football is probably the hardest job in college football.
Football is a different animal imo. In basketball ISU can be much more competitive with the Bigger schools than we have shown in football. Recruiting kids to Ames for football is probably the hardest job in college football.
Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"
Just watched the video - Fennelly went on to say "this is the most amazing collegiate environment in the country - but it's not for everyone." Talked about how other schools use the agriculture angle - cows, pigs, do they even have indoor plumbing, and then the cold weather - against us.
Just watched the video - Fennelly went on to say "this is the most amazing collegiate environment in the country - but it's not for everyone." Talked about how other schools use the agriculture angle - cows, pigs, do they even have indoor plumbing, and then the cold weather - against us.
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It's magnified in football because more of the talent is concentrated elsewhere vs. basketball. Also, if you pull off one recruiting coup or get one diamond in the rough and you can be a tourney team for years. Plus the, "you can play right away" line of recruiting works better in BBall, because one guy can make such a difference.
It's magnified in football because more of the talent is concentrated elsewhere vs. basketball. Also, if you pull off one recruiting coup or get one diamond in the rough and you can be a tourney team for years. Plus the, "you can play right away" line of recruiting works better in BBall, because one guy can make such a difference.
Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"
I pretty much don't get this comment. We have a winning and well respected program and insane fan support and it's "hard" to recruit here? It's tough for anyone recruiting against the powerhouse schools but it is not like we are in some minor conference or lack in academics.
I pretty much don't get this comment. We have a winning and well respected program and insane fan support and it's "hard" to recruit here? It's tough for anyone recruiting against the powerhouse schools but it is not like we are in some minor conference or lack in academics.
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Bingo. Cry me a river Bill. Try filling over 6 times the scholarships you have when all the best recruits are from the south. You need to land a couple top flight recruits and you have some of the best fan support in the nation. And he hasn't been able to close on some of the nations best recruits being in his own back yard in the last decade. Bill has done some amazing things, and he is a great coach, but this really isn't someplace he should go.
Bingo. Cry me a river Bill. Try filling over 6 times the scholarships you have when all the best recruits are from the south. You need to land a couple top flight recruits and you have some of the best fan support in the nation. And he hasn't been able to close on some of the nations best recruits being in his own back yard in the last decade. Bill has done some amazing things, and he is a great coach, but this really isn't someplace he should go.
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Yeah, I would guess when ISU is top 10 in the nation in attendance, has a history of NCAA appearances and a lot of SRs that at least get WNBA tryouts, it shouldn't be that tough. In BB, not ALL the talent is in the south, unlike FB. Yeah, it's tough to outrecruit the powers in WBB, but ISU is a semi-power in the midwest. Shouldn't be THAT tough. Now football is TOUGH. We have good fan support and good facilities, but location and weather are always going to be against us and tradition is pretty much zero.
Yeah, I would guess when ISU is top 10 in the nation in attendance, has a history of NCAA appearances and a lot of SRs that at least get WNBA tryouts, it shouldn't be that tough. In BB, not ALL the talent is in the south, unlike FB. Yeah, it's tough to outrecruit the powers in WBB, but ISU is a semi-power in the midwest. Shouldn't be THAT tough. Now football is TOUGH. We have good fan support and good facilities, but location and weather are always going to be against us and tradition is pretty much zero.
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I don't buy it. People can recruit to colleges in much less desirable places than Ames just fine. Iowa State is a great place with a great school and great support. I just don't buy it at all (especially the colder weather in the winter argument.)
I don't buy it. People can recruit to colleges in much less desirable places than Ames just fine. Iowa State is a great place with a great school and great support. I just don't buy it at all (especially the colder weather in the winter argument.)
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THATS WHY THEY SHOULD TAKE THESE LADIES BY MY HOUSE AND I COULD DO LIKE 50 PUSHUPS WITH MY SHIRT OFF. THEY WILL COMMIT INSISTENTLY.
THATS WHY THEY SHOULD TAKE THESE LADIES BY MY HOUSE AND I COULD DO LIKE 50 PUSHUPS WITH MY SHIRT OFF. THEY WILL COMMIT INSISTENTLY.
Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"
I think Bill is just saying that it is hard to get the top flight players to come to ISU, which is probably true. There are not a lot of elite woman basketball players and the elite teams recruit the best players hard. He is not talking about getting gals to make a good team, he is talking about getting the ones that will allow you to beat Stanford or Baylor.
If the football team recruited, coached and played at the level of the WBB team we would be thinking we died and went to heaven. BTW, I personally think the recruiting for the FB team has gotten better in the last 3 years, but it sure has not shown on the field this year.
I think Bill is just saying that it is hard to get the top flight players to come to ISU, which is probably true. There are not a lot of elite woman basketball players and the elite teams recruit the best players hard. He is not talking about getting gals to make a good team, he is talking about getting the ones that will allow you to beat Stanford or Baylor.
If the football team recruited, coached and played at the level of the WBB team we would be thinking we died and went to heaven. BTW, I personally think the recruiting for the FB team has gotten better in the last 3 years, but it sure has not shown on the field this year.
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As a father of 2 girls I have to disagree with you. I for one appreciate the fact that CBF offers families of recruits a safe family environment that mirrors their own beliefs. CBF just happens to be upfront with his beliefs. I find it refreshing. What you see is what you get.
BTW - This is way different from "no gays allowed".
As a father of 2 girls I have to disagree with you. I for one appreciate the fact that CBF offers families of recruits a safe family environment that mirrors their own beliefs. CBF just happens to be upfront with his beliefs. I find it refreshing. What you see is what you get.
BTW - This is way different from "no gays allowed".
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Makes sense. Wouldn't want any of that Lesbianism rubbing off on your daughters. That's how it works right?
Makes sense. Wouldn't want any of that Lesbianism rubbing off on your daughters. That's how it works right?
Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"
If that's the case then not every ISU player got the memo.
