Fennelly: "This is a hard place to recruit to"

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Heard him say this on the post-game presser tonight. I appreciate his honesty, and wonder if any other coaches of our women's teams, like CJL, etc. share this view. Also wonder if any men's coaches agree.
 

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Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

After all, we force them to wear Uggs.
 

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Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

Definitely hard to argue especially when you start talking about recruiting against teams 'above our level' with advantages that will always be there no matter how high you elevate the program (ie: stanford)
 

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Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

I don't think CFH would agree. It's taken him 3 seasons to make Ames, IA a destination for top-flight transfers and 4+ (fingers crossed) star HS players. Couldn't ask for much more.
 

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I don't think CFH would agree. It's taken him 3 seasons to make Ames, IA a destination for top-flight transfers and 4+ (fingers crossed) star HS players. Couldn't ask for much more.

Id say its harder in WBB than in MBB though. Hoiberg can play the pro angle here a lot more.
 

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Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

I don't think CFH would agree. It's taken him 3 seasons to make Ames, IA a destination for top-flight transfers and 4+ (fingers crossed) star HS players. Couldn't ask for much more.

Doesn't women's BB also have a higher scholarship limit? Makes it harder to recruit away from the top schools when there aren't enough good players to go around.
 

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Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

Location wise it's not ideal, but once you get them here and especially to a game at hilton I don't see why anyone would pass on ISU for basketball.
 

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Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

It might very well be Fennelly's coaching style. Not saying he is a bad coach but he is tough. They win far too much for recruiting to be too difficult.
 

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Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

If Rhoads said anything remotely similar he'd be gutted like a fish on this board... despite the fact that it is no less true for him than it is for Bill.

I just wanted to point that out for those who weren't keeping score at home.
 

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Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

If Rhoads said anything remotely similar he'd be gutted like a fish on this board... despite the fact that it is no less true for him than it is for Bill.

I just wanted to point that out for those who weren't keeping score at home.

If rhoads said it now yeah he might get some flak. Itd come off badly. If he said it after a success level comparative to the level Fennelly has had, he'd be fine.
 

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Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

If Rhoads said anything remotely similar he'd be gutted like a fish on this board... despite the fact that it is no less true for him than it is for Bill.

I just wanted to point that out for those who weren't keeping score at home.

If Bill thinks its tough filling 13 scholarships, I'd hate to see what he would do with 85! Getting a bit off topic here..I think Bill is a great coach, but I really don't buy his beef for WBB.
 

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Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

They used to be the same but scholarships for men's sports were reduced by ten percent by the NCAA a while back. Which is why in non headcount sports you have weird fractional limits like the 9.9 for wrestling (it used to be 11).
 

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Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

I know someone personally on staff at another B12 school and they have told me that Bill is known as a pretty straight laced guy throughout women's basketball. They have told me that other programs are more welcoming of women whose sexual preferences are different than what Bill believes in and it intimidates them. They have told me that his "family" atmosphere is very much displayed.
Just what I've heard.
 

RayShimley

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Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

I know someone personally on staff at another B12 school and they have told me that Bill is known as a pretty straight laced guy throughout women's basketball. They have told me that other programs are more welcoming of women whose sexual preferences are different than what Bill believes in and it intimidates them. They have told me that his "family" atmosphere is very much displayed.
Just what I've heard.

You're not even close to the first one to bring this up, will probably get moderated though...
 

Judoka

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Re: Fennelly: "This is a haard place to recruit to"

I know someone personally on staff at another B12 school and they have told me that Bill is known as a pretty straight laced guy throughout women's basketball. They have told me that other programs are more welcoming of women whose sexual preferences are different than what Bill believes in and it intimidates them. They have told me that his "family" atmosphere is very much displayed.
Just what I've heard.

Also true. Bill's 'we are a family program.' is open code for 'no gays allowed'. Not something I admire him for.