Columbine, 10 years later. What really happened.
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Isnt it weird the different levels of sickness in killers? There are those who just want revenge, there are those who are into inhuman acts of cannibalism-torture-necrophilia-etc, and those who just kill for the pure joy of watching the living suffer. I doubt there will ever be a way to discover these folks ahead of time.
The thing with Dahmer is, he started this all as a child. Placing dog heads on pikes in his yard. Some are born with it.
Trust me, I have live experience with one of those a-holes.
Remember the Fales kid from Albert City???
He lived next door to my Grandparents.... And do I have stories...
So what is a person supposed to do when they witness sociopathic behavior?
I am convinced that a young sociopath resides in my neighborhood. He's now a HS sophmore and appears to be channeling Marilyn Manson in appearance and dress. When he was younger, he used to come play with my sons (now a Freshman & sixth grader). My office is upstairs and from a bedroom down the hall, I heard him explaining to my youngest (probably five at the time) he should just lay still and "go to sleep" as a pillow was held across his face.
I don't know how I remained calm, but I told him that was a really bad idea and it was time to leave. I walked him home and discussed what I had overheard with his mother, who dismissed it out of hand. I indicated to her on the spot that her son was no longer allowed to visit our home.
There's much more to the story (divorce, high intelligence, mental illness in his family), but that's the crux of it. Serious question - what do you do in such a situation?
Second this.
I also am in the crowd that hates when music and video games take the fall. I know its different person by person, but I personally love to play violent video games as a way to blow off some steam, not as a way to train for the real deal.
So just like that you gave up on the kid? Maybe these kids turn into killers, because they can't trust anybody because everybody gives up on them.
It would have been hard to stay as his social worker from another state. I didn't leave my job because of him.
If I were in your situation, I would try helping the kid out as much as I could. Most of these kids have no friends and hate the world. I would try and gain there trust and try to channel there frustrations into positive ones. Trust me, these people can be cured.
I wish they would never publish the names or faces of the killers. Let them die in anonymity. All they want is to be famous, and they see evidence about weekly of some crap like this as it's broadcast nationwide. You can describe the crime so schools can work on prevention, but why on Earth do we try to make these fools famous by plastering their mug/name all over??
It only serves to show more delinquents that they can make a name for themselves too.
It only serves to show more delinquents that they can make a name for themselves too.
The definition of a true sociopath is that they are truly beyond help. There is no rehabilitation for the true sociopath - if you try, they just say what you want to hear, and then go do it again.
+1000
I worked for 3.5 years in the Iowa Prison system, and part of my job was to do the workups on the inmates' "life story".
The great, great majority of true sociopaths had tons of people that tried to help them.
But they only used them and discarded them when it was convenient for the sociopath.
True sociopaths are rare, but removing them from society is the only solution.
First of all, for those of us not from Northwest Iowa, "the Fales kid" (don't remember his name) is infamous for receiving a .22 rifle for Christmas, which he immediately loaded and then shot his entire family with it. "Because it seemed like the thing to do".
I remember playing in my Grandpa's yard, and this kid came by, on a bike too big for him, with wooden blocks on the pedals so he could reach them, and he was running over kids with it.
He would even crash into a parked car so he could hit a kid. And I'm talking as hard as he could pedal.
Dude was a murderer from birth; he just needed the right tool.
The funny thing is, as a kid, you don't think about how warped this is. You just put up with it.
When and where was this? I'm from Sioux City, and I don't think I've heard of this kid.
At last we know why the Columbine killers did it. - By Dave Cullen - Slate Magazine
There's a Slate story from Cullen from five years ago. There's also a short piece about the myths of Columbine linked in that story. It's amazing how wrong the common story about Columbine is.
There's a Slate story from Cullen from five years ago. There's also a short piece about the myths of Columbine linked in that story. It's amazing how wrong the common story about Columbine is.
The part I have yet to read, They were somebodies kids-what do you think there parents are dealing with,If they even care
