Winning at Tech is going to be beneficial in that discussion too.
Can Iowa State get a 2 seed?
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Winning at Tech is going to be beneficial in that discussion too.
Does that mean Milwaukee or Wichita in the first round?
I don't have a strong preference as they're almost the exact same distance from Des Moines, but would prefer we end up in either over Denver.
This year
I assume that would push us to Wichita as Wisconsin and Mich St would both be ahead of us for Milwaukee.
I assume that would push us to Wichita as Wisconsin and Mich St would both be ahead of us for Milwaukee.
The KSU game
Yeah I struggle with the K-State game. Is that one we should lose? No, but they were red hot for like three weeks and then fell apart. They are an odd team to measure.
That was such a weird 3 week stretch for K State. They were playing as one the best teams in the country during that stretch.The KSU game
Outside of those three weeks? Not even NIT worthy
There really isn't. Its the same path effectively. 6/11 or 7/10 are going to be similar profiles. There's a huge difference falling to that 4 line though.
If we go 2-0 this week a 2 seed is absolutely still on the table. 2-0 this week and 2-1 in KC puts them on the 2 line.
IMHO, St. John’s is the sports media’s “darling”, and the committee will do everything in its power to get it one of the #2 seeds!
Ryan Hammer and T3 brackets still have us as a 2 seed in their brackets released today. So I think if we win out our regular season and make it to the big 12 title game (win or lose) we should stay at a 2 seed. We seem to be the last 2 seed so I think we are a loss or early tournament exit away from a 3.
If we don’t make it to the title game in KC we might need some help with other teams around us dropping a game or having an early exit in their conference tournaments.
If we don’t make it to the title game in KC we might need some help with other teams around us dropping a game or having an early exit in their conference tournaments.
Agreed. I don't see any way to put Michigan or A&M or KY in front of us unless we crap the bed. I also think we're in front of Wisconsin based on strength of schedule, but they will be favored in their next two games and will push us for seeding.
Unless Michigan St or St Johns take a bad loss, I think the committee take them in front of us. They want a Big 10 team and Pitino in there before us, and that Oklahoma State loss is very fresh in their mind.
Honestly, I'd put both in front of us. MSU has a better record and just beat 4 ranked teams in a row. St Johns' schedule has not been as hard as ours, but they have a total of 4 losses on the year by a combined 7 points. They've been solid all year.
It's a long shot, but I could see a situation where Alabama falls out of the 2 line. They play Florida and Auburn to finish the season. If they happen to lose both, they'd end up with a 23-8 record, while ending the season losing 5 of their last 7. That would definitely kick us out of a 2 seed.
It really was - and it started 2 games before the winning streak.
But then they beat Arizona while shooting 1-19 from 3, and haven't been able to hit the broad side of a barn since. Check out the offensive rating (second column from the right) from Torvik below - they were awesome for 7 straight games, and then horrible since.
it'll be interesting what they do in Cincy on Wednesday - which team shows up. They may just be cooked at this point
Ryan Hammer likes us far more than the committee does. I think we get "dinged" on the resume for lack of Q1 wins - especially away from Hilton (thanks Dayton, Iowa, etc). It's basically just at TTU, and it was before they were good.
I'm sure they'll be some reason why our injuries aren't taken into account as well - I fully expect we will be on the 3 line as our ceiling - regardless of what happens in KC.
I'm thinking it will be 3 seed in Milwaukee or Denver.
Raleigh and Lexington are locked in with 1-2 seeds.
Houston and as of now Texas Tech will most likely go to Wichita.
Michigan St and an SEC team/Michigan to Cleveland. St. Johns to Providence.
ISU is in position to go to MKE with Wisconsin and probably battling another SEC team like Kentucky for that spot in MKE. If we get jumped, Denver would be the landing spot with most likey Texas AM/Arizona/BYU/Missouri. Also have to be weary of Purdue/Missouri making a run for MKE as well.
Raleigh and Lexington are locked in with 1-2 seeds.
Houston and as of now Texas Tech will most likely go to Wichita.
Michigan St and an SEC team/Michigan to Cleveland. St. Johns to Providence.
ISU is in position to go to MKE with Wisconsin and probably battling another SEC team like Kentucky for that spot in MKE. If we get jumped, Denver would be the landing spot with most likey Texas AM/Arizona/BYU/Missouri. Also have to be weary of Purdue/Missouri making a run for MKE as well.
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Not that I care, but Hawkins getting hurt was pretty much the death blow. KSU fans get sooo frustrated with him, but the reality is he's a matchup problem and has a high offensive ceiling when healthy, despite a low floor. So, with him, there was a world in which they righted the ship after Utah, and kept ISU's Q2-loss dream alive. But alas. I fully expect him to play against ISU, by the way
