Can Iowa State get a 2 seed?

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We also made the Elite 8 as a 2 seed, and the Sweet 16 last year as a 2 seed, and also UAB happened as a 3 seed. The tournament can be pretty random. Usually a 5 seed or lower (or multiple) make the Final 4

I'd have to check but I don't believe the term 'usually' fits this.
 
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to play devils advocate, Marquette is struggling, Dayton and Iowa have really dropped off. We really do not have anything on our non con resume, kind of like last year. To get a two we would have to win the last two games plus the Big 12 tournament?
Marquette is still a solid win....they're at least a tournament team....Iowa falling off is not shocking and they always play us tough in IC....Dayton is probably the most disappointing noncon team we have a win over
 

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I'd have to check but I don't believe the term 'usually' fits this.
Since 2010 only 1 time has the Final 4 been all been seeds 1-4. (2012)

Now 2007-2010 Was three years in a row of Seeds 3 or lower making the final 4 including the one time all 4 #1 seeds made it.
 

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Seems like the conference tournaments don't really matter.

Seems like this is more from an administrative standpoint than anything. It's too hard to change top seeds late and make it all work.
 
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Win out and maybe, might need one or two in KC as well.

We aren't passing Auburn, Houston, Duke, Bama, Tennessee, and Florida..

So that's two spots left for Tx Tech, Michigan State, Wisconsin, St Johns, Kentucky, Michigan, A&M, and Iowa State
I think Michigan St is locked as a 2. We are competing for the very last 2 spot imo. I'd be ok being the 3 against any of those other teams on your list though.
 
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Oh are you talking overall seeds?

I'm thinking like 5 seed from West Region etc.

Although you're correct; looks like a lower seed gets in about every year.

My point is the tournament is pretty random so getting worried about a 2 seed vs a 3 seed is silly... Just like it was last year of 1 vs 2 seed. Really weird things happen and at least one of the final 4 participants is a cinderella as defined by me as being a 5 seed or worse. Especially in the last few years, although it would be good to not face a #1 seed or the overall #1 as long as possible, sort of how we got put in UCONN region last year.
 

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I would like to say that winning the Big 12 tournament has an impact in moving up a seed... but it in the past years that ISU did that, they really did not move up. I think ISU will be a 3
We might have actually, FWIW.

The problem is we all thought that it was going to take us from a 2 to a 1, and it took us from a 3 to a 2.
 

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Yes, they're in the drivers seat if they win out. I'll go as far as to say that they're just about locked into a 2 if they win out.
They have no room for error outside of losing to Houston in the championship game though. Have to at least win all the games leading up to the championship game.
I agree. Win out and don't lose to a lower division team in the conference tournament, and I think our injury bugs will be taken into account and give us a 2.
 

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My point is the tournament is pretty random so getting worried about a 2 seed vs a 3 seed is silly... Just like it was last year of 1 vs 2 seed. Really weird things happen and at least one of the final 4 participants is a cinderella as defined by me as being a 5 seed or worse. Especially in the last few years, although it would be good to not face a #1 seed or the overall #1 as long as possible, sort of how we got put in UCONN region last year.

Yeah agree with all of this. Give me a 3 if it's good matchups.

Heck ISU was an 11 three years ago and could haven't asked for better matchups for the first weekend: a clunky LSU team with weird coaching stuff going on and a soft WI team that really hadn't seen a good defense in over 2 months.
 

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Can we? Yes. But that means winning two this week in probably dominating fashion plus making it to the final in KC. It also depends what other teams do obviously. But for now I've given up on a 2 seed. But if we win two this week plus strong in KC maybe the committee will take into account we'd likely be something like 22-1 at full strength with lone loss to Auburn. Still think we are gonna be a 3.
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Not convinced conf tournaments hold much weight. Outside of new matchups that habent
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This season there looks to be a glut of teams around the 2/3 lines. It will be interesting how it all shakes out and the committee's en vogue metric this spring.
 

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Win out and maybe, might need one or two in KC as well.

We aren't passing Auburn, Houston, Duke, Bama, Tennessee, and Florida..

So that's two spots left for Tx Tech, Michigan State, Wisconsin, St Johns, Kentucky, Michigan, A&M, and Iowa State
Gave this an Agree, along with agree w/ @dahliaclone post prior to that, a few teams vary on each list, combined those are the most-likely teams with which ISU is competing for 2.

Win over BYU secures double-bye, need to win at KSU then unless there's a 12/13 deep run to semifinal, no more chance at a non-helpful loss/win. If that happens, ISU is in strong shape to contend for 2, doesn't have to defeat Houston or beyond (although that wouldn't hurt seeding at all, of course)
 

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to play devils advocate, Marquette is struggling, Dayton and Iowa have really dropped off. We really do not have anything on our non con resume, kind of like last year. To get a two we would have to win the last two games plus the Big 12 tournament?
Marquette and Iowa could do us a solid by each winning later this week, it would be like killing 4 birds with two stones?
 

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Win out and maybe, might need one or two in KC as well.

We aren't passing Auburn, Houston, Duke, Bama, Tennessee, and Florida..

So that's two spots left for Tx Tech, Michigan State, Wisconsin, St Johns, Kentucky, Michigan, A&M, and Iowa State
Michigan just got run out of their own building by an Illinois team that just got absolutely smoked by Duke. They've been very overrated all year. A&M might be next and have dropped 4 in a row. Kentucky is 10th in their own league. Hard to expect them to be one of the top 8 overall. I think TT, MSU, St. Johns and Wisconsin will be the main competition for the last 2 and the rest of that group will be 3's.
 

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to play devils advocate, Marquette is struggling, Dayton and Iowa have really dropped off. We really do not have anything on our non con resume, kind of like last year. To get a two we would have to win the last two games plus the Big 12 tournament?

If we finish strong and show the committee that we are back to full strength they will certainly take the injuries into account. The Okie St game is our only real blemish.
 

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