Billy Gillispe calls Gary Thompson...two others called him as well

[jdoggivjc]

From Kentucky's point of view, it was a rebuilding job.

If it was such a "rebuilding" job, why did they only give him 2 years to accomplish it?

Kentucky doesn't want "rebuilding", they want "reloading". Too bad all the UK fans were too prideful to admit that when Gillispie took over it had deteriorated beyond "reloading".

And yeah, your next argument will be "Buh, buh, buh, Calipari..." Remind me again what happened to UMass and Memphis immediately after he flew out of town on the midnight flight? Yeah, both Final Four seasons for both schools were wiped off the record books. There's a reason why I say that "Calipari's teams are the best that money can buy". Fortunately for him, he's now at a school that the NCAA tends to turn a blind eye to the way that he recruits...

 

[gizzsdad]

I think you're a little thinner-skinned with regards to coach personalities than a lot of the fan base though. Not anything wrong with that, everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I take your claims that everyone will absolutely hate the guy with a grain of salt.

Maybe I'm a little closer to some of these situations than you are. Don't believe I've said everyone will hate him - but based on the experience of people who know him personally, I think it would be nearly inevitable that he would embarass the university and the state.

I see above that Gary T has said he couldn't recommend BCG. Maybe he knows something too?

 

[tazclone]

Where is the proof? Where are you finding this fact that Texas wasn't a heavily recruited area for college basketball just a few years back when Billy G was there? It isn't a fact at all. Have you gone through every single D-1 roster every season Billy G coached in Texas to find out the real numbers? I doubt it. Lets stick to some real facts and not just make them up to suit our agenda here.

I have played close attention to MBB recruitng for a llong time. You don't have to believe me. Just do some research yourself Talk to some people that follow recruiting, the AAU circuit, etc.:skeptical:
Or you can make assumptions based on nothing. I have no agenda. I would support Billy G if he was hired tomorrow. Just making an observation.

Take the Texas equation out of it but Billy G the recruiter failed miserably at Kentucky. He did not land one 5 star recruit to one of the most tradition rich programs inthe country. Not one five star player. GMac landed more 5 star players in his first two years than Billy G did. So if people are going to spout off about how great a recruiter he is then give me more than his ability to keep kids close to home.

 

[DesertClone1]

What source for the 1 5* claim?

The following excerpt is from gillespie's profile on wiki - If this is inaccurate, forgive me as I am not a Kentucky historian.


Recruiting at Kentucky
Between April 29 and May 7, 2008, Billy Gillispie made recruiting waves by snagging commitments from five players spread over five different classes, most notably the commitment on May 1 of Thousand Oaks, California 8th-grader Michael Avery. Avery, a member of the class of 2012, gave the University of Kentucky its earliest basketball commitment in the history of the program. The commitment also earned national scrutiny for Coach Gillispie and the university, but no there were no violations of the NCAA recruiting rules.[22] During his tenure at Kentucky, Gillispie snagged numerous high profile recruits. These included three 5* recruits according to Scout.com (Patrick Patterson, Daniel Orton & Dominique Ferguson) and five 4* recruits (Alex Legion, DeAndre Liggins, Darius Miller, Kevin Galloway and Jon Hood).[23] Legion later transferred to Illinois early in the 2007–08 season.

DING DING DING!
hope this is made a reality.
Now cyclone fans... here we go... how would you like to have a high profile coach, and get the high profile recruits... ATHLETES who can run and gun. may take a year, but i think that if we were to get BCG it would benefit us immensely, put us back on the positive map, not the negative map like we have been for the past 4-5 years.

 

[aeroclone]

He turned programs around fast and won at places that weren't used to winning. Thanks to GMac, we are now a program that needs to turn around fast, and we aren't a place that is used to winning. The guy has been a BCS conference coach in our own league, he knows what it takes to win here. I don't have to worry about him finally fessing up after year one that he didn't realize the level of talent you needed to win in this league.

People loved McD the person. We were still hearing what a nice guy he was up until the end. Hell, they are already pumping that good Midwestern guy sunshine in Omaha. But the fact of the matter is he was pulling 70% in the should we fire GMac poll. Why? Because he didn't win. All the other stuff is nice, but at the end of the day, the fanbase wants a winner.

The guy has the best resume of anybody I have seen thrown out there for this job. I would be very excited by this hire, and I would be very disappointed if there isn't a serious discussion going on in the AD about whether we should interview the guy.

 

[marothisu]

I don't care where he's been. He's had ONE losing season in 7 seasons as a head coach ANYWHERE and that one season was his first ever head coaching stint in D1. Other than that year, every season he's had he's made either the NIT or NCAA Tournament. Let's not forget he recruited a handful of Kentucky's players who are going to the NBA now.


Get off your ******* high horses people

 

[gizzsdad]

From Kentucky's point of view, it was a rebuilding job.

This is true. Recruiting was widely considered to have slipped Tubby's last few years.

 

[MNCyGuy]

Maybe I'm a little closer to some of these situations than you are. Don't believe I've said everyone will hate him - but based on the experience of people who know him personally, I think it would be nearly inevitable that he would embarass the university and the state.

I see above that Gary T has said he couldn't recommend BCG. Maybe he knows something too?

I'm not disputing what you've heard, I just don't think people will be as offended by the guy as you think. How many things have you posted about BF that you were absolutely appalled by and been met by the internet equivalent of shrugs?

 

[marothisu]

This is true. Recruiting was widely considered to have slipped Tubby's last few years.

Exactly and that is why fans were angry with him and contributed to him resigning. "Oh no, we aren't getting as many 5 stars anymore. *IMPLODE*"

 

[thatguy]

the people on here that like to preach their morals will have a hissy fit if Billy is hired.

 

[mkadl]

Exactly. Also, we all know how JP likes to run his searches. QUIET! A name drop usually means no chance, which I would be happy about in this case. (I'm against Billy as our new coach)

Chizik, Mcdermott, Rhoads--all quiet till the box was delivered. Airplane tracker anyone? Must fly commercial for about the next 15 hours out of Des Moines. All non commercial flight have been stopped for our President being visiting our state.

 

[alarson]

Billy G is the guy we need. Get a contract in place that is favorable to us if he relapses, but get him to Ames so he can start winning.

 

[Spam]

Hire Billy G. Throw in a free-full time cab and driver. Give him permission to to have a wet bar in the cab if he so desires. And then, let him win.

 

[tazclone]

Because he didn't make the final four.

Wow, I think there is a little more too it then that. See his character flaws and he not only didn't make the final four but he lost early to Gardner Webb and was never in the top 25 his first year. his first year was the first tim eKentucky hadn't made it to the 2nd round in 16 years. Then year two he started out losing to VMI and finished in the NIT. First time Kentucky missed the NCAA tourney since Pitino's second year.

 

[linkshero]

Originally Posted by yaman3

I would like to say I agree and I also love that there is actual reasoning being thrown out on differing opinions with respect. It's nice not having to see "Ya, but Mac sucks" every other post.
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Ain't that the truth.

Yes, because reading post after post of people calling a coaching candidate a Drunk, bad person, person with character flaws, all drunks are the same,.... is soooo much better.....

I know that there are people on here that were closely effected by drunk driving, and for that I am profoundly sorry. But this is not a political forum. What a few people on here have said about people that have struggled with Alcoholism as a disease, would be considered racist, or bigoted if they were talking about race, religion, or creed.

I am a firm believer that..

a. everyone should get an opportunity to show they can change.
b. ISU should be able to field a competitive Men's BB program.

 

[tazclone]

GMAC was Mr. Clean. He was as safe a choice as JP could find. He made the Hindenburg disaster look graceful. Please stop with the Texas crap unless you can show us some facts. Thanks.

Lazy world we live in. I have done the research and paid attention for more than a couple of year. Do the research yourself. I'm sure the people making the decision do the research and understand what i am saying. I am not saying he can't/wouldn't be successful here. Actually he is growing on me particularly since it seems he is cleaning up his personalissues. Just expressing my concerns with him. and they are valid concerns that should be investgated. Concerns that he will be asked about in an interview.

Either way, if he is the coach tomorrow, I will support him.

 

[tazclone]

Is there some sort of rule that the guy can't recruit Texas players to ISU that I'm not aware of?

Nope, its just a little harder to do. Especially when more people are hitting Texas and there are more successful programs in Texas now then when Billy was there

 

[tazclone]

SHow me the fact that show he doesn't rebuild programs well.

Kentucky.
Next question

 

[alarson]

Nope, its just a little harder to do. Especially when more people are hitting Texas and there are more successful programs in Texas now then when Billy was there

But i'm sure the BCG name would be well known in texas as well.

 

[bos]

Kentucky.
Next question

He still had winning records correct? That would be a rebuild if he did it here. :smile: