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theshadow

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It probably does make sense, but this isn't a very big stretch of road. We're talking, what, a city block long? Two at most. There's already a turning lane on S16th heading north, so they would just need to hook into that.

2100' of roadway to demo, expand to 4 lanes, add paved trails on either side, expand a box culvert at the creek, maintain some type of access to Vet Med the whole time, and the 2025 construction window is less than 3 months.

For comparison, that's about the same amount of roadway that's being reconstructed on Stange right now. Except the Stange project is 2 lanes, lighting, sidewalk, and storm sewer improvements. That project started on March 17 and they're hoping to get it done by the start of the fall semester (5 months).
 

CloneFanInKC

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It looks like the city and university have agreed to a plan to finally extend S 16th Street with 4 lanes to University Blvd. This is long overdue and should help a lot with post game traffic. I don't know the timeline for completion.
From Elwood/Uni to where? Duff or Grand or elsewhere?
 

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Not the easiest to see, but I grabbed this screenshot of streetview, looking west.
You can see the sign on the right that says Lane Ends, Merge Left.
The 4 lanes drop down to 2 basically right at the cross walk that you can see in the distance.


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It probably does make sense, but this isn't a very big stretch of road. We're talking, what, a city block long? Two at most. There's already a turning lane on S16th heading north, so they would just need to hook into that.
It’s longer than a city block. Also it will involve adding in storm sewer, curb/gutter, and new mixed use trails on both sides. It will be a full reconstruction.
 

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With the drainage issues with the grass lots in that area would be nice if the University and Ames could coordinate 1 big project to not only widen out 16th but add some drainage and re-grade the grass lots at the same time too so they don't sit wet when we get a lot of rain. Don't need to pave them just add some drainage tile and build up the grade a little so the low spots don't sit so wet at times which can either force them to close the lots completely or reduce the amount of parking available. It's been pretty dry the last few years so it's not been an issue but I remember 2019 those lots were essentially closed for all but the 1st 2 games of the season and it was a muddy mess getting out of the Iowa game that year too after it rained and after that they were closed the rest of the season I believe.
 

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Going to take a wild guess that most any new project that require an ISU financial contribution at this point would require either donor support, or be awaiting the post-CyTown completion revenue stream.
 

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From the 4/28/2025 Ames Tribune: ISU owns the two lane portion of 16th St. The city staff recommended that the city of Ames pay for the improvement. After the project, the roadway and nearby trail will be owned by the City of Ames via a roadway easement. Cost will be approximately $4 million.
 

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Sorry, I didn't even last 20 seconds listening to that guy.
Haven't watched it, but their criteria is flawed without taking the time to watch it.

% of capacity is not the same across all schools. Some, like Iowa State do not release any numbers above 100% capacity, whether they do oversell or not. This changed sometime in the last couple decades, may have been a JP decision not sure, maybe an insurance issue or similar.

But if you have a school that oversells and releases the number over 100% it automatically throws the entire number off. As if they have 1 game over that number and the rest below, the high number causes the others to average out higher than they are. Think of the Iowa game, we could and possibly do oversell that by a large percentage, if we suddenly have 1 or 2 games at 110% or something, it would make any of those games we come up just short average at or above capacity. Therefore 1 high selling game can cause the numbers to be unrealistic in a scenario like this.

To make this work you would need to equalize all schools reporting, therefore recalculating the average, for each school, where any number above 100% would max out at 100%, therefore not artificially inflating the numbers for places that do report such overages. But no one does that, so using that as a criteria causes the entire rating to be flawed.
 
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From the 4/28/2025 Ames Tribune: ISU owns the two lane portion of 16th St. The city staff recommended that the city of Ames pay for the improvement. After the project, the roadway and nearby trail will be owned by the City of Ames via a roadway easement. Cost will be approximately $4 million.
After its completed the city needs to close 16th street to 2 way traffic all the way from the stadium to Grand, and force people leaving the GA lots east to clear out the traffic better after a game. Do it for 30 to 45 minutes and most of the people would be out of the parking lots on the East side of the stadium, clearing out traffic for the North and South sides easier.
 
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