Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)

[Rabbuk]

They don’t all live in the county. The Prestage plant had people from Waterloo there. The worthington, MN plant had Sioux Falls workers.

This is a really good point. My mom works at a low income/high immigrant school here in Crapids and a lot of parents are filling jobs like that and making the drive every day. The kicker is they usually carpool in big groups. This is part of what makes the whole opening in parts situation nonsense.

 

[3TrueFans]

"They're Iowans and we hope they'll do the right things" I assume is the gist of the response.

 

[Rabbuk]

It's like no one on her team is doing basic things to prep for these pressers. "Hey, guys, what questions might they ask us?"

 

[madguy30]

It's not a yes or no, clear cut type of thing since there's still many unknowns about Covid, but some information about what specifically has been done at plants to help would be helpful. Like, it would be OK for the leadership of the state to give a directive on this type of thing.

 

[BCClone]

This is a definite “gotcha” fishing question if posed like this. No official can assure that all the facilities are doing this. This can be given to all 50 governors and that would all fail this question. Wish the reporters would ask detailed questions instead of this open ended vague crap.

 

[ClonesTwenty1]

I think one of the biggest questions is, why is our local state legislatures not passing anything local for us?

 

[Cyclonepride]

I think one of the biggest questions is, why is our local state legislatures not passing anything local for us?

They don't have the money.

They have actual budgets to meet (which are about to get destroyed).

They have no printing presses.

 

[GrappleCy]

This is a definite “gotcha” fishing question if posed like this. No official can assure that all the facilities are doing this. This can be given to all 50 governors and that would all fail this question. Wish the reporters would ask detailed questions instead of this open ended vague crap.

It's not a "gotcha" question to ask something basic like that. She looks bad because wasn't prepared for it and didn't want to give a truthful answer, not because there was anything wrong with the question. Leaders get asked tough questions all the time, it's part of the job description.

 

[madguy30]

This is a really good point. My mom works at a low income/high immigrant school here in Crapids and a lot of parents are filling jobs like that and making the drive every day. The kicker is they usually carpool in big groups. This is part of what makes the whole opening in parts situation nonsense.

Being symptom-free is still seen as 'not sick' by some I think.

 

[Trice]

This is a definite “gotcha” fishing question if posed like this. No official can assure that all the facilities are doing this. This can be given to all 50 governors and that would all fail this question. Wish the reporters would ask detailed questions instead of this open ended vague crap.

It's a perfectly valid question given that Reynolds has on numerous occasions personally vouched for steps the plants have taken, apparently based solely on her conversations with their CEOs, and been proven wrong every time.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

This is a definite “gotcha” fishing question if posed like this. No official can assure that all the facilities are doing this. This can be given to all 50 governors and that would all fail this question. Wish the reporters would ask detailed questions instead of this open ended vague crap.

There's definitely an adversarial 'gotcha' nature coming from some reporters in that room. I'm guessing that seeing each other every day and having to have more or less the same conversation only exascerbates the situation for everybody.

At a state level, at least for me, its really hard to pass too much blame onto the leadership because they're getting next to no help and guidance from above and simply don't have the resources that the federal government seems unwilling to share. We've got 50 poor souls flying by the seats of their pants while the message from above, that they have no control over, seems to change every 2 hours.

 

[bawbie]

"They're Iowans and we hope they'll do the right things" I assume is the gist of the response.

From what I read about the press conference, yes that was her answer - except "trust" instead of "hope"

 

[bawbie]

It's a perfectly valid question given that Reynolds has on numerous occasions personally vouched for steps the plants have taken, apparently based solely on her conversations with their CEOs, and been proven wrong every time.

And that the state has direct regulatory oversight for the factories - including from a worker safety perspective. It is literally the governor's job to ensure they are doing the right things

 

[GrappleCy]

There's definitely an adversarial 'gotcha' nature coming from some reporters in that room.

They aren't out there asking "Do you still beat your husband" or some nonsense intended to make her look bad. They're asking pointed and important questions to the person in charge of the state, who is making decisions that impact them and their watchers/readers. Whether someone agrees with her decisions is their own opinion. But wanting clarity on why she's making them is literally the job of the people in the room asking her questions.

 

[madguy30]

And that the state has direct regulatory oversight for the factories - including from a worker safety perspective. It is literally the governor's job to ensure they are doing the right things

She should really go visit these places and check on the safety measures so she can confirm that trust that they'll do the right thing.

 

[Clonehomer]

It's not a "gotcha" question to ask something basic like that. She looks bad because wasn't prepared for it and didn't want to give a truthful answer, not because there was anything wrong with the question. Leaders get asked tough questions all the time, it's part of the job description.

There's no way she can guarantee that they are completely protected. She's not on site and quite frankly it's not her job to validate that they are. Now, she could have said that she's been told they are, but to answer yes would be taking their word for it. I don't think I'd trust anything meat packing companies are telling people right now.

 

[Acylum]

408 new cases with 19 new deaths. Over 3,000 tested

Closer to 4000 actually wasn’t it?

 

[Trice]

There's definitely an adversarial 'gotcha' nature coming from some reporters in that room. I'm guessing that seeing each other every day and having to have more or less the same conversation only exascerbates the situation for everybody.

At a state level, at least for me, its really hard to pass too much blame onto the leadership because they're getting next to no help and guidance from above and simply don't have the resources that the federal government seems unwilling to share. We've got 50 poor souls flying by the seats of their pants while the message from above, that they have no control over, seems to change every 2 hours.

Posts like this are illuminating because they reveal that some people just haven't the faintest idea of how things work.

 

[Urbandale2013]

To get back away from the yelling at each other what solutions do people propose for the next couple of weeks. Let’s start by all agreeing it isn’t ok to just open everything up now and it isn’t possible to keep our current restrictions indefinitely. How would people propose we ease the restrictions.

 

[isutrevman]

It's not a "gotcha" question to ask something basic like that. She looks bad because wasn't prepared for it and didn't want to give a truthful answer, not because there was anything wrong with the question. Leaders get asked tough questions all the time, it's part of the job description.

It is a "gotcha" questions because everyone already knows the answer and whatever answer she gives can be spun negatively.

The correct answer to the question is "No. No matter what precautions they take, the virus could still spread." Then she gets blamed for accepting that the virus will spread, and not doing more about it.

The other answer is to say "yes". Which is a lie. Then she gets personally blamed when another worker gets the virus, which will inevitably happen because the virus will likely never be fully exterminated.

That's why it's a bad question. There wasn't going to be an acceptable answer to a certain portion of the population.