Unfortunately people pay for their mistakes and in this case it is a $75 slap on the wrist. It's his choice to pay the ticket but whether you or the OP like it or not, he got caught and got a ticket. Nobody to blame but himself.
Fighting Camera Tickets?
- Thread starter mustangcy
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Lets say, for argument sake, that you were going 70 in a 55.
Example A: you were caught by a patrol car and they gave you a ticket
Example B: you were caught by a camera and they gave you a ticket.
Regardless of your opinions on the speed cameras - there REALLY isn't a big difference between the two. In both cases you were speeding, you were caught and you were given a ticket.
I don't see the difference, if anything I'd be more upset getting caught by a cop sitting on the side of the road nailing people, at least the speed cameras are in the same place every time.
You mean other than example B forces you to waive the right to face your accuser in court should you choose to do so.
But (in the case of CR) the police officer reviewing the tape does have situational awareness. At least as much as someone sitting in a patrol car.
1. It's a violation of the spirit of the relationship between citizens and government. If law enforcement was able to enforce every transgression against their regulations in this way, the average citizen would be in jail.
2. These have created a dual system where the same violation is treated differently. Why? Because they have to. If it was a criminal violation to be caught with a speed camera, it violates the 6th Amendment's right to face your accuser.
3. There are many reasons that a person may speed. At times, it is actually safer to increase your speed to allow for other traffic to merge, or to avoid an accident. A camera cannot capture the context of this.
4. Speed cameras are for revenue generation, not safety.
One is a legal punishment. The camera is not. It is that simple.
I look at it as they caught me. They were better than me. Sure some cops do it in ways I think are not really ok, but it is much better than the camera who can't even make a decision on circumstances
This is from someone who isn't dumb enough to get caught by a camera, and has never even been pulled over.
It does not (at least in CR). You can view the video in person at the CR police dept and you can appeal it in two ways - either to a specific appeal board, or by transferring it to a municipal infraction and taking it in front of a judge.
$100 for running a red light in the town I live in. You got caught, just live up to it and pay the fine.
But with a 12mph buffer, it is reasonable, consistent application to everyone. It seem much more fair than just picking and choosing who the rules apply to - which can lead to favoritism and bias.
As I stated up thread, you can face your "accuser" (the CR police department) either in an administrative hearing or in front of a judge. it is true that these are a civil fine against the owner of the vehicle, rather than a criminal fine - but they are no different than a parking ticket. I've never heard of a parking ticket violating your 6th Amendment right - just because you weren't there when the ticket was issued.
But a police officer sitting stationary in a vehicle watching 4-lanes of traffic can? ********.
That's your opinion - it's not backed up by facts. It's also an accusation of motive not backed up by any direct knowledge - basically it's letting your political beliefs demean local law enforcement. Facts show that the cameras have made the intersections and that stretch of I-380 safer.
Factually incorrect. You have no right to face your accuser in a civil proceeding. Speed camera tickets are not criminal, they are civil.
