Hey Cyclone fans, Raider here (sorry for the long post)
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I think Tech has a chance as well. This will be a slugfest in my opinion. I kind of doubt when the lines come out that ISU will be the favorite, though; and I'm okay with that.
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Ya I replied to that last night and Nevada is god awful and that Texas State win over an 0-3 Houston team that has played Louisiana Tech, Texas State (whoever they are) and UCLA and has been crushed by two of the three, but hey Texas State (a team no one even in Texas knows about) beat Houston!!!
Ah, I didn't notice your reply at first. Think you said Nevada beat Texas St instead of Northwestern St., just threw me off.
Oh crap I did remember wrong. I think Benton returned it to the 2 yard line, but didnt end up scoring. Good call.
Last time Tech came to Jack Trice we got up like 24-0, just in time to give up 24 straight. Letting them score 2 TDs in the last 2 minutes of the first half nearly caught us.
Just gotta avoid handing them short fields, because they will turn it into points quickly.
I'm going to steal a quote from an associate in regards to Tech's OOC:
Beat (1-2) Northwestern State 44-6. Northwestern State is an FCS program that barely held off DII Arkansas-Monticello
Beat (1-1) Texas State 58-10. Texas State's first year in FBS, only noticed this year for beating an awful, awful Houston squad.
Beat (1-2) New Mexico 49-14. NM's only win was a whooping over FCS Southern U, but they're on track for a banner year. They've been 1-11 each of the past three seasons.
I'd also like to note that last year's world-beating Tech squad beat Texas State 50-10, New Mexico 59-13, and Nevada 35-34 before going 2-7 in Big XII play.
Until Tech actually plays a real team, it's impossible to have any clue if they are worth a **** or not. And no Tech fan, the numbers you are spitting out don't mean a damn thing.
Beat (1-2) Northwestern State 44-6. Northwestern State is an FCS program that barely held off DII Arkansas-Monticello
Beat (1-1) Texas State 58-10. Texas State's first year in FBS, only noticed this year for beating an awful, awful Houston squad.
Beat (1-2) New Mexico 49-14. NM's only win was a whooping over FCS Southern U, but they're on track for a banner year. They've been 1-11 each of the past three seasons.
I'd also like to note that last year's world-beating Tech squad beat Texas State 50-10, New Mexico 59-13, and Nevada 35-34 before going 2-7 in Big XII play.
Until Tech actually plays a real team, it's impossible to have any clue if they are worth a **** or not. And no Tech fan, the numbers you are spitting out don't mean a damn thing.
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Here is their non conference from last year
| Saturday 09/03/11 |
| Texas State Bobcats Jones AT&T Stadium, Lubbock, TX | Won 50-10 | --- |
| Saturday 09/10/11 | --- | Open Date | --- | --- |
| Saturday 09/17/11 |
| at New Mexico Lobos University Stadium, Albuquerque, NM | Won 59-13 | --- |
| Saturday 09/24/11 |
| Nevada Wolf Pack Jones AT&T Stadium, Lubbock, TX | Won 35-34 | --- |
I fully get why the average Iowa State fan is very confident they will beat Tech. Last year was a complete disaster for Tech and Iowa State came in and took it too us. If I was a casual Iowa State fan I would be expecting close to the exact same thing or better at home this year.
If I'm a more football savvy Iowa State fan I look past the Tech opponents and look at how Tech has looked on film. On film the talent level of this Tech team really overwhelms you. Tech is the only team in the country who has a top 10 offense and a top 10 defense, and they have a higher sagarin SOS than ranked Florida State or TCU.
You don't have to take my word for it, and you can laugh it off if you want, but Texas Tech is a really good team this year. Iowa State is going to have to play mistake free football and get a couple of takeaways. Which is very possible as we know from the OSU game last year. Either way, I'm just excited to finally see how Tech's starters stack up in Big 12 competition this year.
If I'm a more football savvy Iowa State fan I look past the Tech opponents and look at how Tech has looked on film. On film the talent level of this Tech team really overwhelms you. Tech is the only team in the country who has a top 10 offense and a top 10 defense, and they have a higher sagarin SOS than ranked Florida State or TCU.
You don't have to take my word for it, and you can laugh it off if you want, but Texas Tech is a really good team this year. Iowa State is going to have to play mistake free football and get a couple of takeaways. Which is very possible as we know from the OSU game last year. Either way, I'm just excited to finally see how Tech's starters stack up in Big 12 competition this year.
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Being savvy would be understanding that the talent looks over inflated due to the fact that they are playing solid HS teams. I would hope like hell that a Northwestern State would look overwhelmed playing against a B12 team.
Do you have any sorts of confidence in your coach? You two have something in common, neither has proven a thing as the coach at Texas Tech.
Last year's game results don't truly mean much. But puffing up your chest and bragging about being top 10 in offense and defense, after playing 3 cupcakes, looks (frankly) silly..............
Both TTech and ISU have a lot to prove in this game. This game could decide which team gets to go bowling and which one doesn't. This game could also make a huge impact on all future games in confidence whether good or bad. Neither team has had a lot of love from any talking heads due to the number of historically/recent good teams in the BIG 12, so both are fighting for that reputation that both feel is deserved.
I don't think either team can compare any of their previous wins to this game. This very well could be the best offense and defense ISU has seen from any previous teams, and will be the best offense and defense Tech has seen this year.
I think it comes down to if ISU's defense can stop a quick scoring offense, but the biggest thing will be the turn-overs. Our defense will not be able to play 3/4 of the game and still be able to stop Tech's offense in the 4th quarter like they did against Iowa.
I don't think either team can compare any of their previous wins to this game. This very well could be the best offense and defense ISU has seen from any previous teams, and will be the best offense and defense Tech has seen this year.
I think it comes down to if ISU's defense can stop a quick scoring offense, but the biggest thing will be the turn-overs. Our defense will not be able to play 3/4 of the game and still be able to stop Tech's offense in the 4th quarter like they did against Iowa.
I've always liked Texas Tech. But then again I was conceived in Lubbock at Reese Air Force Base, then born in Ames. Apparently, when not learning how to fly fighter jets, theres not much else to do in Lubbock!
There are a lot of teams who have only played cupcakes at this point. There is only 1 who is top 10 in offense and defense. Like I said, there are multiple ranked teams who have played weaker schedules according to sagarin than Tech.
Tech's schedule is weak up to this point, but it's certainly not the weakest in the nation. Why haven't the teams that have played weaker schedules than Tech put up better stats than Tech? Could it be that not all of Tech success is solely due to their schedule?
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CycloneErik
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The first one was OK. The rest of the TTarmy is going to start a rivalry around here.
There is cheering for your team. There is drinking excessive amounts of Kool-Aid, and then there is Texas Tech delusion. Your stats mean nothing. In 2 weeks, you get your first chance at the big time. If you win, bring the big talk. When you lose, drop by for the fallout while we move on to someone who's done something recently.
There is cheering for your team. There is drinking excessive amounts of Kool-Aid, and then there is Texas Tech delusion. Your stats mean nothing. In 2 weeks, you get your first chance at the big time. If you win, bring the big talk. When you lose, drop by for the fallout while we move on to someone who's done something recently.
I will say this it takes a lot balls to come on to an opponents website and talk trash when the opponent has demolished your team the last two years. This game is in Ames and the place will likely be nearly a sell out, with a 6:00 kick most in attendance will have had their share to drink, not to mention your opponent is also still undefeated. Oh and your opponent has a better defense, a better coach, better special teams, but not quite the offense, the biggest difference is your team has not played outside of its home state and has yet to face anyone with a pulse.
Given the competition that TT has played, I'm not sure why any TT fan would be confident of victory over ISU. ISU has a pretty stout, underrated defense.
On the other hand, given where ISU's offense is, I'm not sure why any ISU fan would be declaring certain victory any Big 12 opponent. WIU is a cupcake, and ISU's offense did not look good in that game. The recurring theme in the commentary from Heft and Bruns (with Bruns being much more direct) regarding the offense was "bad _________" (read, decision, turnover, mistake, etc.) That's not the kind of thing you should be hearing when playing a cupcake.
Regardless of how good the defense is, unless Wally and the defense are going to start doing the scoring as well, the offense still has to score some points in order to win a game. I'm just hoping that CPR and the Offensive coaching staff can get the offense rolling soon (i.e. by the next game).
On the other hand, given where ISU's offense is, I'm not sure why any ISU fan would be declaring certain victory any Big 12 opponent. WIU is a cupcake, and ISU's offense did not look good in that game. The recurring theme in the commentary from Heft and Bruns (with Bruns being much more direct) regarding the offense was "bad _________" (read, decision, turnover, mistake, etc.) That's not the kind of thing you should be hearing when playing a cupcake.
Regardless of how good the defense is, unless Wally and the defense are going to start doing the scoring as well, the offense still has to score some points in order to win a game. I'm just hoping that CPR and the Offensive coaching staff can get the offense rolling soon (i.e. by the next game).
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