Steele Jantz...

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Hope Barnett stays ready. It is great having someone like him, especially with his big game-winning experience, to be able to step in at a moment's notice. It is hard to imagine that Jantz can make it through the season without getting banged up, particularly if he starts to run for more yardage on scrambles.
 

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The people who are pointing out the negatives on Jantz in that game are completely correct and on the point. However, they are nitpicking and if we continue to nitpick Jantz and those are the type of things he does incorrectly, we will have a VERY good year. 1 turnover that was a small overthrow and still hit the TE in the hands for a tipped pick, sure. But he was still ACCURATE overall throughout the game. Good to see the improvement, now if he goes to iowa city and completes 45-55% then we can rehash this discussion. I feel pretty good about the QB position at this time though, not great, but good enough where we can be in the game against anyone on our schedule.
 

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The people who are pointing out the negatives on Jantz in that game are completely correct and on the point. However, they are nitpicking and if we continue to nitpick Jantz and those are the type of things he does incorrectly, we will have a VERY good year. 1 turnover that was a small overthrow and still hit the TE in the hands for a tipped pick, sure. But he was still ACCURATE overall throughout the game. Good to see the improvement, now if he goes to iowa city and completes 45-55% then we can rehash this discussion. I feel pretty good about the QB position at this time though, not great, but good enough where we can be in the game against anyone on our schedule.



Note that his 71% completion rate included drops of three fairly easy throws to Horne!
 

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I thought Steele played very good. It's a great start but I'm looking for consistency. So, I need 3 to 4 straight games of that then I'll get really fired up. Like Shontrelle tweeted, " not too high, not to low". Let's kick some Hawkeye *** this week!
 

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I thought Steele played very good. It's a great start but I'm looking for consistency. So, I need 3 to 4 straight games of that then I'll get really fired up. Like Shontrelle tweeted, " not too high, not to low". Let's kick some Hawkeye *** this week!


Well stated.
 

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Hope Barnett stays ready. It is great having someone like him, especially with his big game-winning experience, to be able to step in at a moment's notice. It is hard to imagine that Jantz can make it through the season without getting banged up, particularly if he starts to run for more yardage on scrambles.

The staff has made Steele pass first now. We saw that Saturday. He keeps his eyes down field before taking off. I love that. Only way Steele gets banged up is if the O-Line doesn't do it's job and protect him.
 

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If that pass was to Brun it probably wouldn't have been picked. I've seen plenty of High School players make that catch who weren't good enough to go to the next level. If you get both hands on it, you catch it. Not every single pass is going to be perfect.
 

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Poise and accumulated experience will allow him to continue to improve--especially if the OL continues to cooperate.
 

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Note that his 71% completion rate included drops of three fairly easy throws to Horne!

he had one that would have been for a huge gain but was scared of getting lit up. he better leave it all out on the field this saturday or that kind of mentality will get his *** on the bench
 

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If that pass was to Brun it probably wouldn't have been picked. I've seen plenty of High School players make that catch who weren't good enough to go to the next level. If you get both hands on it, you catch it. Not every single pass is going to be perfect.

Bruns is 6-3, Hammer is 6-6. If the pass was too high for Hammer to get a "clean catch" on it why would you assume Bruns would have come down with it. Also, if high school players are making that catch then they would be playing at this level.
 
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Note that his 71% completion rate included drops of three fairly easy throws to Horne!

Horne is still looked timid from the collarbone injury, IMO. He'll get there. Really would have liked to seen more of Jarvis.
 

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Bruns is 6-3, Hammer is 6-6. If the pass was too high for Hammer to get a "clean catch" on it why would you assume Bruns would have come down with it. Also, if high school players are making that catch then they would be playing at this level.

Ernst Brun

Ben Bruns.
 

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he had one that would have been for a huge gain but was scared of getting lit up. he better leave it all out on the field this saturday or that kind of mentality will get his *** on the bench

Yep, Aaron was going to get blasted on that play had he caught it.
 

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If that pass was to Brun it probably wouldn't have been picked. I've seen plenty of High School players make that catch who weren't good enough to go to the next level. If you get both hands on it, you catch it. Not every single pass is going to be perfect.

Come on. It doesn't diminish the legend of Steele to admit that he had a bad pass. I thought he played very well, but sometimes receivers are going to get their hands on bad passes but aren't going to, nor should they be expected to, haul them all in.

Even CPR said that Jantz wasn't as good in this game as he had been in camp throwing the short ball. He was frequently high. That being said, if he plays to this level in future games, ISU will have a chance in a lot of games.
 

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or Steele was going to pump fake and our receiver would blow past the Dback for a wide open touchdown.
We will see this Saturday. The dback that goes and blocks the receiver will start to cheat up, and thats when the dback will "whiff" the block and run a wheel route down the sideline.
 

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Interception was a bad throw...yes it was a catchable ball, but Steele has to throw it in a better spot.

As someone else said though...if you throw it 45 times, you are bound to have one or two sail on you.

Agree. I would put that pick more on the QB than the receiver. TE was wide open and it was a bad, high throw. But, yes, catchable.
 

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Steele played really well. He had one or two boneheaded plays (who doesn't) but not too bad. That big sack and the pass. I was impressed with how he stayed in the pocket and was impressed with one or two of those sacks he took. He tucked the ball and went down. Didn't run out and lose more yards, fumble or throw a pick. Sometimes you gotta cut your losses, and he did. :yes:
 

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I will admit I was in the Barnett camp just because I didnt trust Steele, and its too soon to know if I trust him yet. I was impressed with his reduced gunslinger attitude Saturday. He looked much better coached and more polished than he was last year at this time, reducing his need to have to improvise. I like how we ran that screen over and over again, sets up for the deep ball down the sidelines when a dback tries to jump the route and it opens it up for the up the middle runs and over the middle passing games, skinny posts anyone?

The mistakes Steele made are at least fixable which I have no doubt Mess is in the process of fixing right now. What needs to happen Saturday is for our O-line to take over in the run game, control the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball, reduce the need to blitz on d and get pressure on VDB with our front 4. If we do that, he stands back there like a trophy and will be easy to hit. Both things I think are completely doable and will take tons of pressure of Steele. I think the turnovers will decide the game on Saturday, lets go create some.
 

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