Steele is stronger, and maybe faster, but Barnett is just as quick, and more agile. Barnett can make a guy miss easier down field, where Steele has that Drew Tate unsackability.
Hence the push.
How would you compare JB to SJ
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Steele is stronger, and maybe faster, but Barnett is just as quick, and more agile. Barnett can make a guy miss easier down field, where Steele has that Drew Tate unsackability.
Hence the push.
I think something that really separates JB from Steele in the decision making category is the zone read. The offense really started to click and move the chains a lot more when the quarterback was a threat to constantly run. Some of that was Steele's injury, but I also thought he struggled with making his read and making the correct decision to keep it or hand it off. A majority of the time he would just hand it off.
+1, but JB is sneaky quick and a lot more athletic than I gave him credit for prior to the season (attempt at crow eating).
I too hope that SJ improves his reads. I noticed that a lot in the first few games before he got hurt. He just did not make the best read consistently. Most of his runs that I rememebr were on rolls outs or broken plays.
We will continue to compare these two constantly for the next 9 months, but the only thing thats clear is that they both are pretty similar players and if I were going to make a bet, I'd say neither one clearly emerges as the starter by Sept. 1st.
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They're both pretty similar. Jantz has the bigger arm but Barnett makes the better choices.
The thing about Steele is that he never stayed in the pocket and let things develop downfield. Got flustered, scrambled, made bad decision, interception/incompletion. If he can be more comfortable in the pocket, let him start. If not, JB. Maybe give SR a chance
First, I think someone (other than me) should create a poll so we can generate a ongoing rating across the board for the overall stats / perceptions of these two. Maybe even one for RB's & WR's, so we can see how the players stack up against each other.
SJ said on the 10pm news that he has a 'much better understanding' of the offense now. Obviously he is biased, but I took it for his word, and he seemed much more confident, not to mention much more open to talk to the media too.
SJ said on the 10pm news that he has a 'much better understanding' of the offense now. Obviously he is biased, but I took it for his word, and he seemed much more confident, not to mention much more open to talk to the media too.
To expand on my earlier post...
Barnett had 104 rushes and threw 220 passes and accumulated 6 interceptions and had 11 fumbles (only 3 of which were lost). He threw an interception on 2.72% of passes. His 11 fumbles on 224 rushes accounted for a fumble on 3.4% of touches. If you just add the total fumbles (while removing the "luck factor" of who recovered them) with the total interceptions then JB threw a pick or fumbled on 5.25% of his touches.
Jantz had 84 rushes and threw 259 passes and accumulated 11 interceptions and 3 fumbles (all of which were lost). That is an interception on 4.25% of his passes and fumbled on 1.17% of all touches. Jantz fumbled or threw a INT on 4.08% of his touches.
Point being that Jantz threw way too many interceptions and Barnett fumbled way too much. We were lucky that only 3 of JB's fumbles were lost. Fumbling isn't necessarily a look into "decision making" but there are times when big hits and smart plays can avoid the chance of a fumble.
All told, which one is less of a turnover risk?
Barnett had 104 rushes and threw 220 passes and accumulated 6 interceptions and had 11 fumbles (only 3 of which were lost). He threw an interception on 2.72% of passes. His 11 fumbles on 224 rushes accounted for a fumble on 3.4% of touches. If you just add the total fumbles (while removing the "luck factor" of who recovered them) with the total interceptions then JB threw a pick or fumbled on 5.25% of his touches.
Jantz had 84 rushes and threw 259 passes and accumulated 11 interceptions and 3 fumbles (all of which were lost). That is an interception on 4.25% of his passes and fumbled on 1.17% of all touches. Jantz fumbled or threw a INT on 4.08% of his touches.
Point being that Jantz threw way too many interceptions and Barnett fumbled way too much. We were lucky that only 3 of JB's fumbles were lost. Fumbling isn't necessarily a look into "decision making" but there are times when big hits and smart plays can avoid the chance of a fumble.
All told, which one is less of a turnover risk?
I'm sure Footballintexas will find a way to distort these statistics to make JB look better.
^^^^^ to khaal. someone pointed out the fumble #'s during the season because everyone seemed to think SJ had a fumble problem and JB didn't. well those numbers prove that JB was even worse at turning the ball over. I have no doubt that SJ has the higher ceiling. JB's arm is weak and he fumbles to much.
It is hard to compare them in terms of up-sides in each of these categories because they have lots of similarities in terms of ability. It is going to be the one who eliminates the down-sides of each of these things that will make the difference.
And that is what Spring practice is all about!
