I'll take the bet on Irving. I think Miller will be one of those guys that we all agree made a significant contribution to ISU football before he's done (although he's not ready this year). I will be surprised if Irving is ever more than a situational pass rusher.
From the video that I've seen, if he were ever
only a "situational pass rusher", they would switch him to tight end--and
still have a future FL player. The kid can run, and has amazingly soft hands.
David Irving is taller than 6'4 to 6'5. I've talked to him before (nice kid) and I am 6'4 and he towers over me. I do agree that he looked around 220 but he has a nice frame and I see him playing at 6'7 255 to 265 during his time at ISU
I did note that his hometown paper kept billing DI at 6'8".
That lead me to other tangents as I went haha. My point is that DE isn't so hard to learn that you can't get enough knowledge in 2 years to add to the athleticism that you already have and apply it on the field. It isn't like playing quarterback.
I seem to recall that at about 6'2" 215, Jason Berryman did okay rushing the passer simply using his speed and athleticism as a frosh.
....He said they recruited him/he committed at 230 pounds and when spring rolled around they were pleasantly surprised that he was 250. Maybe it was 240 and 250 im not sure.
I won't argue with anyone who has met him (which seems to be contrasting viewpoints), but having seen the videos of David's HS play, the way he twoered all of the other players, it would seem to me that if he were only 6'4", the rest of them must have been about 5'6".
If he was 250 on signing day, it was a lean 250. And he did look significantly bigger in photos from then than the previous fall.
I took my info directly from Coach Paul Rhoads...
The other thing that I took from Signing Day was that the staff said that Irving was the steal of the class. Anyone remember the last time they said something like that, and who they referred to?
Yeah, that's right--a kid named Jake Knott.