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colbycheese

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What made me hate Windows 8 is the mix of environments for "app-like" programs and normal PC programs. It makes it impossible to multitask. The calculator "app" alone drives me crazy. What good does a calculator on a computer do me if it takes up the entire screen and I can't see any other windows!

That said, it sounds like they fixed that in Windows 10, so I'll be excited to check it out. I'm going to need to buy few computers for work in January. Hopefully it will be possible to get computers with a free Windows 10 upgrade included.
 

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What made me hate Windows 8 is the mix of environments for "app-like" programs and normal PC programs. It makes it impossible to multitask. The calculator "app" alone drives me crazy. What good does a calculator on a computer do me if it takes up the entire screen and I can't see any other windows!

That said, it sounds like they fixed that in Windows 10, so I'll be excited to check it out. I'm going to need to buy few computers for work in January. Hopefully it will be possible to get computers with a free Windows 10 upgrade included.

Yeah, the idea was to sandbox apps and if the app didn't / shouldn't need "full windows" permissions to run it in that "metro" sandbox so they could also throw it on the Win RT devices. Again, i see what they were trying, but poorly executed as it should have had "app resize" from the start (although, can you snap the calculator app? never tried it but that would pretty much be what you are wanting)

(BTW -> on a touch screen, the "metro" or "modern" Internet Explorer is amazing -> the desktop version of IE, not so much as i still use chrome when in desktop mode)
 

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Yeah, the idea was to sandbox apps and if the app didn't / shouldn't need "full windows" permissions to run it in that "metro" sandbox so they could also throw it on the Win RT devices. Again, i see what they were trying, but poorly executed as it should have had "app resize" from the start (although, can you snap the calculator app? never tried it but that would pretty much be what you are wanting)

(BTW -> on a touch screen, the "metro" or "modern" Internet Explorer is amazing -> the desktop version of IE, not so much as i still use chrome when in desktop mode)

I use Firefox on my personal and work computers, and on my Android phone. It works awesome in all situations. It's going to take a lot to get me to change browsers again. I haven't tried IE on a touch screen yet... but I don't expect much. Also, the only touch screen computer I have is a laptop that's in desktop mode all of the time anyway, so I don't really have a reason to try out IE.
 

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I use Firefox on my personal and work computers, and on my Android phone. It works awesome in all situations. It's going to take a lot to get me to change browsers again. I haven't tried IE on a touch screen yet... but I don't expect much. Also, the only touch screen computer I have is a laptop that's in desktop mode all of the time anyway, so I don't really have a reason to try out IE.

IE has come a long ways forward (and IMHO firefox went backwards). I haven't used FF as my daily browser in about 3 or 4 years now (once it started to become slow during the initial load, it lost it's spot). I only have it installed for debugging purposes now as i'm a programmer.

I used to use FF all the time because of FireBug, but now Chrome and IE have passed FF in that respect too for debugging javascript (as long as you are using IE 10 and up). If only AdBlockPlus worked on Modern IE :)
 

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Anyone else get an offer for a limited time upgrade to Windows 10 through Windows Update? I have an older Win 7 machine that just had this pop-up. No, it's not malware. It's through Windows Update and says it's the full version. I'm worried about taking it though since this is an older PC with memory maxed out at 4GB. It already runs slow at times.
 

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Anyone else get an offer for a limited time upgrade to Windows 10 through Windows Update? I have an older Win 7 machine that just had this pop-up. No, it's not malware. It's through Windows Update and says it's the full version. I'm worried about taking it though since this is an older PC with memory maxed out at 4GB. It already runs slow at times.


What tests I did of 10 show me it runs much lighter than 7. What you could do is use something like macrium reflect or similar and make an image of your machine, download the upgrade and see what its like, if it sucks, go back to your image.
 

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What tests I did of 10 show me it runs much lighter than 7. What you could do is use something like macrium reflect or similar and make an image of your machine, download the upgrade and see what its like, if it sucks, go back to your image.

Good idea. Have you ever used the image backup built in to Windows 7/8? I've used Clonezilla but never tried Windows' utility.
 

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Good idea. Have you ever used the image backup built in to Windows 7/8? I've used Clonezilla but never tried Windows' utility.


I havent either. Clonezilla I used a long time ago, kind of forgot about it. Good application.
 

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I'm debating it. Something tells me if they are offering it for free there has to be a catch and probably will have bugs early on. I have a less than 1 year old i7 desktop running Windows 8.1 and have this offer available so I'm skeptical. My IT background says test test test until you know it is stable. Microsoft usually does not give away its best stuff so that is why I am hesitant on this.
 

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I built a new PC about 3 months ago and I will move to Windows 10 on day one of the release. I've heard nothing but good things.
 

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I'm debating it. Something tells me if they are offering it for free there has to be a catch and probably will have bugs early on. I have a less than 1 year old i7 desktop running Windows 8.1 and have this offer available so I'm skeptical. My IT background says test test test until you know it is stable. Microsoft usually does not give away its best stuff so that is why I am hesitant on this.


Apple gives OSX away now, it was a no brainer for MS. They will make up the difference in apps and services.
 

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I've been using Windows 10 since about January. I've only had one issue (no start menu!) on one of the preview versions and it was fixed in a couple hours. Microsoft released the wrong one apparently.
 

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At minimum it's going onto my desktop PC. Neither my wife nor I can stand Windows 8 as is. If it's that good, I'll install my reserved copy onto my laptop, which has Windows 7.
 

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I have windows 8 and got the invite. I decided to give it a shot, it has to be better than windows 8..right?
 

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I had a pop up last night asking if I'd like to upgrade to 10. I am on 7. Assuming it's free because they need to compete with Chrome. I haven't done it yet. Waiting for reviews.
 

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I had a pop up last night asking if I'd like to upgrade to 10. I am on 7. Assuming it's free because they need to compete with Chrome. I haven't done it yet. Waiting for reviews.

You can accept now but it won't get installed until after June 20-something when they start rolling it out.
 

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I'm debating it. Something tells me if they are offering it for free there has to be a catch and probably will have bugs early on. I have a less than 1 year old i7 desktop running Windows 8.1 and have this offer available so I'm skeptical. My IT background says test test test until you know it is stable. Microsoft usually does not give away its best stuff so that is why I am hesitant on this.

The catch is that they will automatically roll out all fixes and "updates" to the system with it. You will lose control of what patches you take and when you take them.

For most people, that's a non-issue most of the time.
 

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The catch is that they will automatically roll out all fixes and "updates" to the system with it. You will lose control of what patches you take and when you take them.

For most people, that's a non-issue most of the time.


Only on the home/personal editions. The pro/ent editions will allow for control.
 

TykeClone

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Only on the home/personal editions. The pro/ent editions will allow for control.

Some control, but not like we are used to. Not that it's a bad thing as long as they aren't breaking too many things with updates.