Will the BIG10 Reverse Their Decision?

CloneJD

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Ah yes, the "live with it" approach that morons have pushed this entire time that got us where we are now.

Sports are on tv, jobs seem secure, economy is rebounding, kids going to school this week, high school football is in practice, US infection rate going down, family went on summer vacation, and we're going to try to play college football. I kind of like the position we are in now.

Don't be such an angry Grinch.
 

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Sports are on tv, jobs seem secure, economy is rebounding, kids going to school this week, high school football is in practice, US infection rate going down, family went on summer vacation, and we're going to try to play college football. I kind of like the position we are in now.

Don't be such an angry Grinch.

Somewhere along the way "flatten the curve" became "wait at home for the cure"
 

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Could everyone compromise on a solution that involves getting a two week average of cases below 25,000 and deaths under 500 and sports are on and even have 50% fan capacity?

Sad that this where I’m at but maybe this would be agreeable to everyone? There are just no goals present except SPORTS!!!!
 
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Keith will post anything to avoid the meed d solutions.
His passive "I'm not qualified" to judge the science and then pushing toward the "get the games ing" approach is atrocious. Respect for him is gone.
Well he's not qualified and when 3/5 of the power 5 conferences said their medical professionals believed it could be safe, it's reasonable to think why he'd be wanting to see games played.
 

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Somewhere along the way "flatten the curve" became "wait at home for the cure"

Probably about the time that levels got so high that you can't just flatten them at those high levels. Or maybe about the time that we discovered that there is a lot more to worry about with this virus than just death including a lot of long-term lung, heart, and neurological damage. maybe we saw how enough countries acted properly and knocked the virus down to the point that it isnt a concern anymore. But because of people like you who demanded that we open up other non essential things like bars and restaurants prematurely we are stuck in this mess.

Hell despite this talking point you are repeating straight off of right-wing media, no one is even saying to wait at home for the cure merely not to engage in the highest risk activities of which large group sports and large attendance events are near the highest risk things. Especially when viral spread is still at such high levels.
 

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Probably about the time that levels got so high that you can't just flatten them at those high levels. Or maybe about the time that we discovered that there is a lot more to worry about with this virus than just death including a lot of long-term lung, heart, and neurological damage. maybe we saw how enough countries acted properly and knocked the virus down to the point that it isnt a concern anymore. But because of people like you who demanded that we open up other non essential things like bars and restaurants prematurely we are stuck in this mess.

Hell despite this talking point you are repeating straight off of right-wing media, no one is even saying to wait at home for the cure merely not to engage in the highest risk activities of which large group sports and large attendance events are near the highest risk things. Especially when viral spread is still at such high levels.

I'm with you honestly on fans in attendance. I'm not with you on stopping games, precisely because these guys want to play. Basically we're punishing these athletes and coaches because their classmates (check out the photos from AJ's from this weekend) and from the Karen army who want to keep getting their nails done. They've done everything they've been asked to do.
 

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Probably about the time that levels got so high that you can't just flatten them at those high levels. Or maybe about the time that we discovered that there is a lot more to worry about with this virus than just death including a lot of long-term lung, heart, and neurological damage. maybe we saw how enough countries acted properly and knocked the virus down to the point that it isnt a concern anymore. But because of people like you who demanded that we open up other non essential things like bars and restaurants prematurely we are stuck in this mess.

Hell despite this talking point you are repeating straight off of right-wing media, no one is even saying to wait at home for the cure merely not to engage in the highest risk activities of which large group sports and large attendance events are near the highest risk things. Especially when viral spread is still at such high levels.
So play the sports without fans. The athletes are already taking all their classes online and relatively close to being in a bubble. Heck, there is incredible peer pressure to stay COVID free at the schools currently scheduled to play this fall. What's more high risk...a hundred football athletes in a bubble or our local high school of 2,000 students doing normal 8 hour days, full attendance with masks recommended. Yep, both are going on, yet only one is seeing COVID spread.

All the issues with NBA infections were at the start of the bubble when players were coming in or the handful that did something dumb. They are doing great right now. MLB has had some issues, but actually remarkably well, and again, only when someone did something they shouldn't have. NHL...more of the same. Socially distancing works and college sports can have the same success if they simply take care of their safety and are smart about interactions.
 

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Somewhere along the way "flatten the curve" became "wait at home for the cure"

I was just having this conversation with a friend the other day. I seem to recall the primary purpose of the initial social distancing and quarantining measures being to avoid overrunning the hospitals and keeping ICU beds and respirators available. At some point we went from that to requiring complete eradication.
 

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I was just having this conversation with a friend the other day. I seem to recall the primary purpose of the initial social distancing and quarantining measures being to avoid overrunning the hospitals and keeping ICU beds and respirators available. At some point we went from that to requiring complete eradication.

Right, but we weren't supposed to go from quarantine to no restrictions like we've seen in much of the south. It seems there is never any middle ground in these discussions.
 
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Probably about the time that levels got so high that you can't just flatten them at those high levels. Or maybe about the time that we discovered that there is a lot more to worry about with this virus than just death including a lot of long-term lung, heart, and neurological damage. maybe we saw how enough countries acted properly and knocked the virus down to the point that it isnt a concern anymore. But because of people like you who demanded that we open up other non essential things like bars and restaurants prematurely we are stuck in this mess.

Hell despite this talking point you are repeating straight off of right-wing media, no one is even saying to wait at home for the cure merely not to engage in the highest risk activities of which large group sports and large attendance events are near the highest risk things. Especially when viral spread is still at such high levels.

You'll have to point out where I demanded things open up. I haven't been to a bar or restaurant in almost 6 months so I'm not sure what you're getting at. I don't see why bars should be open right now. Restaurants I'm fine with based on the CDC recommendations of 6 feet, wearing a mask until you're at your table ect ect. I also don't consume right wing media so sorry I don't fit your narrative here.

Obviously no one is saying "wait at home until all is well" but the attitude has shifted that way. Consequences seem to only be allowed to be considered one way on this issue.
 

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I read a quote, apparently from a Penn State administrator, that there was too much “uncertainty” to have college football this Fall.

Damn, there’s a great life lesson from an educator. When you don’t know for sure what’s going on, quit.

Give up. Hide.

I can’t say how angry that makes me.
 
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You'll have to point out where I demanded things open up. I haven't been to a bar or restaurant in almost 6 months so I'm not sure what you're getting at. I don't see why bars should be open right now. Restaurants I'm fine with based on the CDC recommendations of 6 feet, wearing a mask until you're at your table ect ect. I also don't consume right wing media so sorry I don't fit your narrative here.

Obviously no one is saying "wait at home until all is well" but the attitude has shifted that way. Consequences seem to only be allowed to be considered one way on this issue.

Please explain. The only thing cancelled right now is Big Ten football.
 

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Please explain. The only thing cancelled right now is Big Ten football.

I'm pretty sure you don't care what I think on this issue. It's just a general attitude I'm sensing based on readnig some people's posts and social media. Just my thoughts obviously everyone has their own opinions.
 

mj4cy

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I read a quote, apparently from a Penn State administrator, that there was too much “uncertainty” to have college football this Fall.

Damn, there’s a great life lesson from an educator. When you don’t know for sure what’s going on, quit.

Give up. Hide.

I can’t say how angry that makes me.

As Frank Underwood says "but I want us to ******* TRY!"
 

Aclone

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Could everyone compromise on a solution that involves getting a two week average of cases below 25,000 and deaths under 500 and sports are on and even have 50% fan capacity?

Sad that this where I’m at but maybe this would be agreeable to everyone? There are just no goals present except SPORTS!!!!
Given that an idiot friend of a friend of mine on Facebook keeps posting that wearing masks is worthless, and we shouldn’t be stupid enough to do what the government tells is to do—and this seems to be a fairly prevalent opinion—I’m guessing the answer is “no”.

For some odd reason, I feel a need to point out that there is no constitutionally guaranteed right to stupidity.