Why are Farmers never happy?

Are farmers too needy?

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nfrine

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I can almost guarantee they’re dumping old treated corn. Corn goes bad and it has to go somewhere. They do have a corn facility at the Adel location.

As far as the slab, It looks like the treatment dust is being spread around by forklifts coming in and out of the building.
 

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Isn't that fun.
 

8bitnes

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Only subsidy I get is of crop insurance, and I thankyou, I also pay taxes to support local services, like schools. which I don't mind.
Did you claim PPP funds? And if so, how did the covid lockdown affect your ability to farm such that you needed to claim the funds? Asking bc multiple relatives claimed it on the basis of being a sole proprietor with business of bean farmer. Got $33k each for sure and I think they got a second round which bumped the total over $50k.

Ever take out a loan at FSA office? The interest is subsidized and the rates are ceiling controlled
 

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Not exactly sure.
Did you claim PPP funds? And if so, how did the covid lockdown affect your ability to farm such that you needed to claim the funds? Asking bc multiple relatives claimed it on the basis of being a sole proprietor with business of bean farmer. Got $33k each for sure and I think they got a second round which bumped the total over $50k.

Ever take out a loan at FSA office? The interest is subsidized and the rates are ceiling controlled
Maximum rate for any individual at a business was $20,833.
 

8bitnes

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Maximum rate for any individual at a business was $20,833.
Disagree. Just looked it up and uncle #1 got $35,600 (April 2020) and $20,800 (Jan 2021) in his two payments. His is listed as sole proprietor and corn farmer. Another got $25,000 in a single payment, a third got $41,500 (from 2 payments), and a fourth got $8,400. Cousins got $25,400 and $41,500 each from sun of two payments. So most of them danced right on that limit, but not all. However, you missed the point. They had zero interruptions to their business and none forecast either. But, they gladly took the payment because they qualified not because they needed.

So, $198k between the six of them.
On top of that, their joint business got $400,000+
 
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Disagree. Just looked it up and uncle #1 got $35,600 (April 2020) and $20,800 (Jan 2021) in his two payments. His is listed as sole proprietor and corn farmer. Another got $25,000 in a single payment, a third got $41,500 (from 2 payments), and a fourth got $8,400. Cousins got $25,400 (1 pmt) and $41,500 (from 2 payments).

So, $198k between the six of them.
On top of that, their joint business got $400,000+
Then they paid back anything over 20,833 per person on the PPP. They issued about anything up from and then afterwards put a limit on what you didn’t have to pay back. So yes, they may have received more, but the rules out in afterwards limited it.
 

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Then they paid back anything over 20,833 per person on the PPP. They issued about anything up from and then afterwards put a limit on what you didn’t have to pay back. So yes, they may have received more, but the rules out in afterwards limited it.
Don't quite a few farmers have different LLCs set up? A good friend of mine told me his semis and trailers are a different "company" than the farm.
 

8bitnes

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Then they paid back anything over 20,833 per person on the PPP. They issued about anything up from and then afterwards put a limit on what you didn’t have to pay back. So yes, they may have received more, but the rules out in afterwards limited it.
You could well be correct. However, the point stands that they had zero need to claim those PPP funds. Their farming ventures and work were not impacted in any way during the lockdown. There was no paycheck protection occurring with those forgiven loans.
 

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Don't quite a few farmers have different LLCs set up? A good friend of mine told me his semis and trailers are a different "company" than the farm.
Yeah, most businesses will have LLCs to firewall the others (which usually doesn’t work anyhow). They typically are what’s considered an abandoned corporation.
 

8bitnes

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Don't quite a few farmers have different LLCs set up? A good friend of mine told me his semis and trailers are a different "company" than the farm.
Some, yes. My farm is. We didn't take PPP funds.
 

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What is the make of the dark brown, dark gray, almost black combine?

Never seen that color before yesterday

It was not a normal gray Gleaner
 

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Maximum rate for any individual at a business was $20,833.

There were at least 2 potential payments of that amount IIRC. So possibly 2 times $20,833. Correct me if I am wrong. In addition farmers received payments from the US for lost sales due to China’s tariffs on US grains under Trump.