What is the bare minimum expectation for next season?

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  1. Thompsonclone

    Thompsonclone Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, you’re probably right.. Especially because next years team will only have 2 SR’s and probably no NBA guys. We will return most of the roster for 2021/22 so I’m sure they won’t fire Prohm even though no tournament 3/4 years is unbelievably bad.
     
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  2. Clonefan32

    Clonefan32 Well-Known Member

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    I think it's gotta be the tournament. Missing 3 out of 4 years with the sole appearance being a very disappointing performance isn't getting it done.
     
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  3. 2forISU

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    SP is 2 recruiting classes away from getting back to the tourney. I don't think they are even close next year but ISU should be back in the tourney by '22 season. No way JP gives SP 3-years to turn it around.
     
  4. jsb

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    When you can’t hit a 3, maybe a long two that you make is better.

    when was the last time he used a bad timeout?
     
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  5. besserheimerphat

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    We are a basketball school. We should get to the Sweet Sixteen every. year. Period. Anything less is unacceptable. We should NEVER have a rebuilding year EVER. Johnny Orr would be spinning in his grave. It should be written into every coaches contract that they are automatically terminated with no buyout as soon as they are mathematically eliminated from at least 25 wins.
     
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  6. jsb

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    And I’m sure that if we win 20 games you’ll be here telling us he should be fired. It goes both ways. I’m biased for him and you’re biased against him.
     
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  7. tim_redd

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    What if he uses the Morgan standard?
     
  8. isucyfan

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    I think another factor is Otz' availability. If he has a great season next year, I bet Pollard will move on him if Prohm has little or no improvement next year. Pollard LOVES Otz.
     
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    the good thing about that is no one will be able to ***** about the coach on here ;)
     
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  10. CycloneErik

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    I want somehow to hit "agree," "dislike," and find a barf emoji for this.
     
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  11. Zleight39

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    Depends what else we lose this off season. Halliburton gone. Good chance Terrance transfers with how Prohm treats him. Solo could transfer for his senior year and be closer to his mom so she can see him play more. Zion could transfer as well with how up and down his minutes are. Could have a lot of spots to fill still.
     
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  12. JRE1975

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    I think CSP needs to make changes to his staff to coach toughness, rebounding, and just having a mean disposition to compete in the Big 12 that has become a defensive league, not a run and gun league. We need to play more like WV, Texas Tech, Baylor, and Kansas.

    We are recruiting and coaching to the way the Big 12 was, not to what it is now.
     
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    Well then this year is his last year.
     
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    #34 Cyclonepride, Feb 10, 2020
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    I think getting into the tournament next year is a reasonable expectation, and I think they can do it. We'll need some guards to step in or step up for sure.
     
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  15. huntt26

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    The expectation for the program should always be to make the NCAA tournament. From there it's a crapshoot. Just get to the dance and see what happens.

    That being said, a trip to the tournament this year is extremely unlikely (>0 <1%). Too early to tell for 2021, but not looking great there unless the incoming guys are ready to contribute significantly on day one (which is possible, but not a guarantee).

    This year would have been a lot different had THT returned.
     
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  16. rochclone

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    Long two are bad shots especially when you have a below 50% shooter taking them.
    The last timeout fiasco as far as one being taken was Florida AM after a made bucket. However, I can point to the Kansas game as to why his TO useage is maddening. We take a TO in the 2H two minutes after a media TO when we have gone from being behind 20 to behind 23. But in the 1H we don’t use a TO when KU goes from 25-23 with 6:57 in the 1st to 42-26 with 2:33 in the 1st. 17-3 run at home without a TO. Not sure how that is defensible.
     
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    Not likely as I’m the guy that called 18-19 a success no matter the outcome of the NCAA Tournament game against Ohio State. If we win 20 next year then that would a major positive step.
     
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  18. ISUKyro

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    9 wins is the best the football team has ever done. It is time to expect the same from the MBB team.
     
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    Beat Florida A&M
     
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  20. KKramer

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    Can't overlook what this program has been with Prohm's guys. The first post-Monte team was always going to be a rebuild, but that team finished last in the Big XII. Last year's team had the most talent in the league and went 9-9 and were fighting each other in practice and sitting out games because of it. Big XII tournament was nice, but in the end pretty meaningless because we got bounced by a team that probably shouldn't have been in the tournament. This year's team might not get last in the Big XII, but without Haliburton it's probably the worst team in the league.

    Recruiting doesn't mean anything if they don't buy in, the concepts don't work and/or they don't get along.
     
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