WBB: **** No. 18 Iowa State vs. No. 21 Iowa - 8:00 PM FS1 GAME THREAD ****

[cmhawks99]

I'm just going to drop this and then stay off the women's threads for a bit because I know how this goes lol. Not a great game, still got more learning to do. Signs of promise in the first half, but the frequent fouls (both ends) didn't let the Sisters gain some semblance of rhythm. Officials clearly helped the Hawks, but can't complain too much when we shoot FTs like we did. Some turnovers were fouls, but there were many in the 4th that shouldn't have been turned over. Lots to figure out - still time to do that with Big 12 play, but there needs to be something changed.

Iowa reminds me a bit of WV, minus the full-court press. Pesky on defense - Jensen has made an impact on the style of the team already. I wouldn't be surprised if Iowa is contending for a 3rd-4th place in the Big 10 with how weak it is after your first couple teams. Just hard to beat and don't give up.

Say what….there are 8 ranked teams in the Big 10s WBB. They are probably at worst the second best women’s basketball conference in the country. Other than that, I agree I think I will prove to be a very good team by the end of the year.

I also think Iowa State is still probably the odds on favorite to win the the big 12

 

[cmhawks99]

This team might end up like Prohm’s final year, talent in all the spots with a lack of leadership, chemistry, and effort.

There is not enough talent in the guard court

 

[cmhawks99]

We badly need athletic guards. Our guards make Dix and Harding look like Jordan and Pippen.

Yes your are correct… except pretty odd that you’re gonna try to use Dix and Harding… I’ve heard most announcers comment that they are surprisingly athletic and although I expected to get blown out last night, they acquitted themselves quite well… odd take

 

[3TrueFans]

lol why is this guy just responding to every post from 2 days ago?

 

[cmhawks99]

Please. Stripes is a ******** excuse.

It's really ******* hard to win with 20+ TOs.

Even harder when you can't hit FTs (though Iowa could say the same about the FTs).

The better team won this game. Iowa played atrocious and still won with ease.

Super generous take, we played quite poorly, and I had expected to win fairly easily, but I thought ISU shoot the best they have all season. The just didn’t have an answer for Iowas defensive intensity.

When have you heard that about an Iowa basketball team defense LOL

 

[cmhawks99]

Again, I've never seen anything like it (refs). And the Iowa "fans"....it just adds to the narrative that people who are otherwise fairly normal (like out in public), become complete asshats when they put on black and gold. it literally never ends.

Last year at a game watch for the ISU-Iowa FB game, I had to sit and "take it" from an adult, thirty something, dude with his girlfriend. After their win, said "adult" slowly drove by my family, kids and all, in the parking lot, windows down, blaring "In Heaven there is no Beer" with a **** ass smirk on his face. It literally never ends.

Sorry for the rant.

Oddly enough I’ve read that on about 50 fan boards about their rivals…weird

 

[cmhawks99]

The refs made me want kick a puppy.

The refs didn’t affect the game….

 

[geewago]

lol why is this guy just responding to every post from 2 days ago?

He gots lots to say! Straightening out all the crooked paths. Plus it keeps the thread on the front page.

 

[swclone11]

Say what….there are 8 ranked teams in the Big 10s WBB. They are probably at worst the second best women’s basketball conference in the country. Other than that, I agree I think I will prove to be a very good team by the end of the year.

I also think Iowa State is still probably the odds on favorite to win the the big 12

Weak is a strong word for it, I’ll grant. USC and UCLA have a league of their own, clearly. I’ve seen the whole Maryland hype train before enough to not buy their ranking - same as OSU. Good teams, but on Iowas level. Nebraska isn’t there and I’m not buying Michigan either. So 3rd-5th for Iowa remains my call.

 

[cmhawks99]

Weak is a strong word for it, I’ll grant. USC and UCLA have a league of their own, clearly. I’ve seen the whole Maryland hype train before enough to not buy their ranking - same as OSU. Good teams, but on Iowas level. Nebraska isn’t there and I’m not buying Michigan either. So 3rd-5th for Iowa remains my call.

Ohio State and Maryland are both terrific programs and Maryland has won a national championship within the last 10 years if memory serves.

UCLA is fantastic, USC is extremely beatable, and again the big 10 is the second best conference behind the SEC pretty easily

 

[swclone11]

Ohio State and Maryland are both terrific programs and Maryland has won a national championship within the last 10 years if memory serves.

UCLA is fantastic, USC is extremely beatable, and again the big 10 is the second best conference behind the SEC pretty easily

They are both fantastic programs and I don't disagree with you that the Big 10 is the second best conference this year. But I am struggling to see a great case as to why OSU/Maryland will significantly outperform this year. Maryland beat Duke, a good win, but also struggled horribly against Purdue, who is not good at all. Their 7th rank is just as inflated as ours was. I'm just not seeing teams consistent enough to make it much past the S16 (minus USC/UCLA). That's not a knock, that's an incredibly hard thing to do, but I'm not going to act like they're something different. OSU has barely played anyone of any consequence. I'll revisit them after they visit Stanford on the 20th.

 

[cmhawks99]

They are both fantastic programs and I don't disagree with you that the Big 10 is the second best conference this year. But I am struggling to see a great case as to why OSU/Maryland will significantly outperform this year. Maryland beat Duke, a good win, but also struggled horribly against Purdue, who is not good at all. Their 7th rank is just as inflated as ours was. I'm just not seeing teams consistent enough to make it much past the S16 (minus USC/UCLA). That's not a knock, that's an incredibly hard thing to do, but I'm not going to act like they're something different. OSU has barely played anyone of any consequence. I'll revisit them after they visit Stanford on the 20th.

I’m not taking it personally, but I contend you really just don’t know how good Marylands roster is. I’m not even a fan per se, but they have multiple top 100 recruits and in fact Brenda has signed 16 top 10 classes in her 22 years.

Their starting lineup goes 6, 6-2, 6-2, 6-2, 6-2….yikes, which I didn’t even know until right now.

In the last 4 years, they’ve gone sweet 16 twice, elite 8 and 1st round last year when they wildly underperformed.

They aren’t grossly overrated.