WBB: **** No. 18 Iowa State vs. No. 21 Iowa - 8:00 PM FS1 GAME THREAD ****
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gave me a flashback to the Creighton team two years (I think) ago. Constant movement on the court. Was fun to watch unless they were playing you.
But there is a benefit to putting her in and having her foul out. It would mean she's playing and contributing.
The proof was in the pudding. She was totally ineffective in the 2nd half and we lost. I just don't know how you can possibly say that worked according to plan.
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It's not making money though, that's my point. Iowa Women's basketball despite all of the great things it's had going for it still operates in the red. It's literally cannibalizing revenue form the men's program. That's awesome they've had all of those sellouts but those are cheap tickets. All of the money is on the resale side.
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I can't speak to NIL other than to say that outside of some of the tip top recruits in WBB I think it might be overstated. Of course Iowa has NIL experience with Clark but that was real NIL, like Page Buecker, and true company pay for image/name and not the pay for play masquerading as NIL.
What the Hawks have done is maximize their Clark Effect. Like it or not, Iowa has a national brand thanks to Clark and a couple of Final Fours and they are working hard to keep it. Olsen is a perfect one year fit to help keep eyes on their program. She a great face for the program for one year before it gets turned over to the recruiting classes of 2024 & 2025 which on paper look really good. They won't compete for the Big Ten title this season but they will remain relevant and be dancing in March. Programs can't afford to falter much in the age of easy transfers and so far they look to have been doing about everything right.
I might have underestimated the Bluder retirement move because it was somewhat surprising at the time. Now it looks like a great move. Even though they had good classes for 2024 and 2025 it might have gotten soon to the point of "So is she going to retire in a few years? How will that affect the program?". With Jensen promoted they keep the momentum/continuity but take imminent retirement out of the equation, sort of a refresh/update.
I don't remember the figures but it was pretty well known that SWARM spent a ton in NIL on this years team. I totally agree though, the Iowa program has a ton of momentum and they are leveraging that.
Yeah you could have bought season tickets last year for $150, increase to $210 for adults/$100 for kids this year. No donation level.
Men's it's $325 and donations needed.
I think Iowa is in a pretty strange situation where the men's team is less of a priority than the women's team for NIL That will stay the case as long as Fran is the coach, it will be interesting to see what happens when he leaves.
IMO - quickness is the number one attribute you need to play any sport successfully. In basketball, followed by strength, speed and jumping ability.
this year feels like sophmore slump year for ISU womens team. lot a growing pains to be had. biggest thing is get turnovers under control and making free throws. if 3s start falling great but really need to fix things that team can control.
Turnovers Women's Career Leaders and Records
Since 2002-03
| 3 | Caitlin Clark | 639 | 2021 | 2024 | Iowa |
| 158 | Janita Badon | 437 | 2009 | 2012 | Utah |
| RaeChaun Edwards | 437 | 2013 | 2016 | Campbell | |
| Jordan Lewis | 437 | 2017 | 2022 | Baylor | |
| Emily Ryan | 437 | 2021 | 2025 | Iowa State |
Hmmm... I might be misremembering, but I think they took it from a 10 point lead to a 4 point lead and then Addy came in and they hit 2 free throws or something like that and then we had her take the final shot of the quarter for a miss. She was not in for the entire 10 point collapse.
I would have done what Bill did too, trying to buy time. He maybe should have taken a timeout after they got it to 7, but didn't and then it was at 4 the next possession.
Addy played at the end of the second quarter and was still reaching when she shouldn't. With the way the game was strangely called, she could have easily picked up a 4th foul in the first minute of the third quarter. Then we'd be talking why did he put her in so soon.
Admit it, it was a call, it didn't work out, but it is not unheard of and does not make Bill an idiot.
What we really needed to do is use a couple timeouts to remind our players not to pass it to stationary opponents. We have a real problem with doing this. Our players also need to have a purpose for their dribbling and an awareness to give a trapped OR stopped player an out. We just stand there and look at them to try to do something with the ball when they have dribbled into a smothered position (which is the beginning of the problem.)
I feel like there must be some really deep instruction that you MUST NOT go against becuase there is NO WAY that the collective basketball instincts of the young women on the floor can be this bad.
I will continue to cheer for them and am glad they are such great people, but I'd like for them to not do the silly things they do over and over.
I mean, can you blame the assistants, they don’t want to kill the goose that laid the golden egg. They all seem pretty content with mediocre. And getting paid.
That has been the offense for years. Audi need to pass out for the outside shooter to make shots and it will draw out the defenders and get her more one on one... my 2 cents worth
She has done that in a few games, but it seems like when we pass in no one moves to get open. I do agree that we should be looking for this more.
The 9-0 run occurred in the last couple minutes of the game, not in the 3rd quarter. When Brown entered the game they were shooting FT, the announcers made a point of saying that since ISU will be on offense, she is less likely to get a foul called on her, as if we had been on defense.
Bill was trying to buy time and keep her on the bench as long as he could and still have the lead when she reentered. I would say he accomplished that. Now could ISU have built a bigger lead if she had played the 3rd quarter? Maybe but she also might have picked up her 4th foul. I never heard his comments after the game, but I really doubt he was kicking himself about keeping Brown on the bench for most of the 3rd quarter.
ISU was up 10 with a few minutes left in the 3rd but only up 3 at the end of the 3rd.
While funding did increase so did their expenses. They finished in the top 5 last season in revenue and still lost over 4 million dollars while the men play before a half empty arena cleared $4 million because of the TV contract.
Caitlin Clark Powers Doubling of Revenue for Iowa Women’s Hoops
The National Player of the Year led the Hawkeyes to the Final Four in 2022-23–and $3.8 million in revenue.
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