Except you forgot one thing. It isn't about standings, this too will be about tvs.
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Except you forgot one thing. It isn't about standings, this too will be about tvs.
Here's my first shot at a Big 14 divisional split... North/South
Would have protected crossover rivalries as well, to keep Bedlam.
Why not go to 16 then? Add Miami and Notre Dame? Or Louisville? Then split into quads.
Texas Quad
Baylor
TCU
Texas
Texas Tech
Great Plains Quad
OU
OSU
KU
KSU
North Quad
ISU
Louisville/ND
WVU
Va Tech
South Quad
Clemson
Ga Tech
FSU
Miami
I think this would make sense on a number of levels (geography, competition, tradition, national appeal, etc.)...
Another question: If you go to 14 or 16 teams, how many conference game you having? Cuz it seems to me if you go 16, you would do either 7 or 9 (your quad and another or your quad or 2 each from the other 3 quads)...
In that report showing the number of fans each school has Clemson was 10th (10th!). To me it was the one real surprise in with all the usual suspects (Texas, Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama, etc.)
Then I suppose that answers the question. ISU/Clemson > ISU/KSU. Bring on the kitty cats, the ones that wear purple..........and orange, crap you know what I mean.
I believe it would be your pod and two from each of the other pods. That would give everyone games vs TX schools each year with a TX pod and games in the south (FL/GA/SC) every year.
However, someone would probably demand protected rivalries which craps on everything. UT/OU every year and so forth. Then you'd have to have a interdivisional rival for every school. So that's 4 games every year and rotate 5 from the other 3 pods I guess.
And this 20 thousand post thread has been full of fact since day one.
Anyway, some more interesting reading material from BGN, enjoy people;
Hello all. This is the first time I have ever posted on a board. Ever since I first heard internal whispers of these rumors about a month ago, I have been reading the ACC boards, this board, the Big 12 boards, and the Louisville board. Because of the statements coming out of FSU and other leaks coming from ACC schools, I have finally decided it is time to post. I chose this board because it seems to be the most engaged on this realignment issue, with the exception of some ACC boards. Like Geauxnoles, I have the some of the same reasons for not putting this on an ACC board.
First of all, I was born and raised in ACC land. I graduated from an ACC school and presently work in the AD of an ACC school. I am an ACC homer through and through. After graduating, I moved to the west coast to work in the AD at a non-Pac school. After a few years, I took a job at a Pac school. Just last year, I was lucky enough to move back to ACC land. Anyway, I was lucky (or unlucky) to be around for the Pac/Big 12 expansion. There are a few lessons from this I would like to share. The first go around, it seemed like everything was all set. The 6 schools were coming, however LHN and the cliques made it impossible. I don't think Texas was ever serious about compromising on LHN. Especially, in 2011. Also, there were 3 cliques. The schools that would be in a western division, the academic elite, and the schools that would do anything for Larry Scott. I could get into greater detail, but this is old discussion. The lesson here is that the media reported that this was a done deal several times, when it was never even that close.
My thoughts on some posters/sites:
MHV - must have a connection somewhere or just good at guessing. ACC meeting posts a little off.
Geauxnoles - I knew after his first post he was Swofford's boy. Great info, but misleading. There are no "shares", but FSU is valued at "x" amount in the ACC, they will be valued at same "x" amount in the Big 12. He said that the ACC will share playoff money equally with the 4 other major conferences. True, but that's the smaller "off the top" money as I understand. And Pres Barron may not have talked to the Big 12, but we all know what's really going on.
Pitt board - clueless about the ACC. They are convinced there will be an ACC network. Good call, we have one. It's called the Raycom ACC network.
Cardinal Jim - utterly clueless. A week ago he said the Big 12 would expand with UL and Cincy. Now it's UL and FSU. I'm no Big 12 insider, but I think they are after bigger fish. However, I think UL is in play.
Tarheeled, woadblue - instead of trashing FSU and Clemson, why don't we figure out ways how to improve the ACC? Quit blaming them for not holding up there end. BB doesn't mean much in today's environment.
Sorry this is so long and I'll wrap it up. I've been on the road for over a week with other ACC reps and east coast schools touring new facilities in the midwest. This has nothing to do with expansion, these trips are set up months in advance and they occur every year. Some Big 12 schools on the tour list, but everyone is tight-lipped. In addition, my school is probably not a Big 12 candidate, but that doesn't mean we don't have options. From what I know, one ACC school is likely gone. With what is going on in Tallahassee, FSU may be gone. I gave this a 5% chance of happening a few weeks ago. Now it is probably 90%. I believe FSU and the other school will announce in July to begin play next year. The Big 12 will also invite Louisville, giving them 27 months to get out of the Big East. The 4th team will be announced next year and begin play when UL does.
I still think there is a chance we can hold this together. However the chaos in Tallahassee and the way JS sold out again on the ACC contract tells me something has already gone down.
And this 20 thousand post thread has been full of fact since day one.
Anyway, some more interesting reading material from BGN, enjoy people;
Hello all. This is the first time I have ever posted on a board. Ever since I first heard internal whispers of these rumors about a month ago, I have been reading the ACC boards, this board, the Big 12 boards, and the Louisville board. Because of the statements coming out of FSU and other leaks coming from ACC schools, I have finally decided it is time to post. I chose this board because it seems to be the most engaged on this realignment issue, with the exception of some ACC boards. Like Geauxnoles, I have the some of the same reasons for not putting this on an ACC board.
First of all, I was born and raised in ACC land. I graduated from an ACC school and presently work in the AD of an ACC school. I am an ACC homer through and through. After graduating, I moved to the west coast to work in the AD at a non-Pac school. After a few years, I took a job at a Pac school. Just last year, I was lucky enough to move back to ACC land. Anyway, I was lucky (or unlucky) to be around for the Pac/Big 12 expansion. There are a few lessons from this I would like to share. The first go around, it seemed like everything was all set. The 6 schools were coming, however LHN and the cliques made it impossible. I don't think Texas was ever serious about compromising on LHN. Especially, in 2011. Also, there were 3 cliques. The schools that would be in a western division, the academic elite, and the schools that would do anything for Larry Scott. I could get into greater detail, but this is old discussion. The lesson here is that the media reported that this was a done deal several times, when it was never even that close.
My thoughts on some posters/sites:
MHV - must have a connection somewhere or just good at guessing. ACC meeting posts a little off.
Geauxnoles - I knew after his first post he was Swofford's boy. Great info, but misleading. There are no "shares", but FSU is valued at "x" amount in the ACC, they will be valued at same "x" amount in the Big 12. He said that the ACC will share playoff money equally with the 4 other major conferences. True, but that's the smaller "off the top" money as I understand. And Pres Barron may not have talked to the Big 12, but we all know what's really going on.
Pitt board - clueless about the ACC. They are convinced there will be an ACC network. Good call, we have one. It's called the Raycom ACC network.
Cardinal Jim - utterly clueless. A week ago he said the Big 12 would expand with UL and Cincy. Now it's UL and FSU. I'm no Big 12 insider, but I think they are after bigger fish. However, I think UL is in play.
Tarheeled, woadblue - instead of trashing FSU and Clemson, why don't we figure out ways how to improve the ACC? Quit blaming them for not holding up there end. BB doesn't mean much in today's environment.
Sorry this is so long and I'll wrap it up. I've been on the road for over a week with other ACC reps and east coast schools touring new facilities in the midwest. This has nothing to do with expansion, these trips are set up months in advance and they occur every year. Some Big 12 schools on the tour list, but everyone is tight-lipped. In addition, my school is probably not a Big 12 candidate, but that doesn't mean we don't have options. From what I know, one ACC school is likely gone. With what is going on in Tallahassee, FSU may be gone. I gave this a 5% chance of happening a few weeks ago. Now it is probably 90%. I believe FSU and the other school will announce in July to begin play next year. The Big 12 will also invite Louisville, giving them 27 months to get out of the Big East. The 4th team will be announced next year and begin play when UL does.
I still think there is a chance we can hold this together. However the chaos in Tallahassee and the way JS sold out again on the ACC contract tells me something has already gone down.
am i looking at the wrong thing? it says you have 144 posts ...
And this 20 thousand post thread has been full of fact since day one.
Anyway, some more interesting reading material from BGN, enjoy people;
Oh I totally agree...all I was trying to say is that this came from those universities themselves correct? That they wanted to be in the same division. Or was that not fact? If not I apologize but I thought that it came from some of their reps at one time or another and have not seen anything from them with the new stuff. That's all.
Good tidbit there. Wonder who the one is that is gone according to that guy.
He copied from another poster on another board...
Agree. Also my guess, he works for Virginia. Don't know why but that is my guess.
Clay Travis is back on the case. He was pretty dead on about conference realignment last go around.
How Crushing Would a Florida State -- Miami Departure Be to the ACC? : Outkick The Coverage
How Crushing Would a Florida State -- Miami Departure Be to the ACC? : Outkick The Coverage
Yeah, they've been awfully quiet the last few days. Reminds me of Pitt and Syracuse right before they announced they were leaving for the ACC.
Interesting, but I just don't buy this:
Academics do matter to those who make these decisions, but football is still king.
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