why in the **** is this thing still on the front page. can we give it it's own forum off of the front page already!?!?!?!?
*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
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I might be the only one, but I find this subject truly fascinating :smile:
BTW - it's official, BYU is not going to the Big East. I still think this whole mess has a ways to go before things finally settle down.
AP source: BYU, Big East end negotiations - FM News 101.1 - Chicago
WOW- I didn't catch that one. Looks like the article was published a week ago. I think we all knew they'd go to 16 at some point, but I can't believe they came out an admitted it publicly. I think if they go to 16 they'll almost assuredly expand east. I would expect some combination of Florida State, Clemson, Georgia Tech, or West Virginia with the 1st two being the most likely. Then they can move Missouri back West where it makes some geographical sense. I supposed they'd consider an OU/OSU combo, but whatever they do they'll have to break the "no expanding in an already existing SEC state" rule.
If you assume they take 2 ACC teams, it'd be interesting to see if they ACC is happy going back down to 12 or if they take UConn and Rutgers to finish off the Big East.
Here's the link for anybody interested
Vandy vice chancellor hints SEC not done expanding | CollegeFootballTalk
Saw something today that said VA Tech would be a target. Geographically that move would make total sense. If that would happen, then I think that the ACC would look at Rutgers and/or UCONN to fill the gap. Since the Big 12 has already gone east with WVU, I think we should go ahead and expand with the teams mentioned earlier and create a East / West Big 12. Given Dodds comments along with Neinas saying expansion is done for 2012, got to believe that something is in the hopper for '13 or whenever the TV rights are up. PS. With Boren's comments about Rutgers, I have to believe that there is more to this than just idle speculation. Many of the Big East boards were buzzing about it over the weekend.
Interesting...sounds like something is starting to brew again. I thought this was over until next spring/summer at least.
I totally missed Boren's comments about Rutgers too. I thought Rutgers was pure media speculation, but maybe there is some smoke.
I have a hard time believing Va Tech goes to the SEC without Virginia. Sounded like that was a political nightmare in Virginia with lawmakers switching out Syracuse for Va Tech to ACC in 2003. Now Va Tech leaves Virginia??? I'll believe that when I see it. I think FSU and Clemson are most likely.
If the SEC expands do you see Louisville and Rutgers to Big 12? Or UConn/Rutgers to ACC?
Can't we just get a commish to make sense of all this and put this all to rest!
Boren link below:
OU President Boren Wants Rutgers and Louisville in Big 12 - BeyondU Sports
Your mizzou curator **** sticks couldn't even schedule a conference call without it being rick-rolled and having 4 different people introduce themselves as Dan Beebe to the gal running the call. If they can't get something like a conference call right, it's not that far fetched to think they would **** this up too.
I think you've got this backwards. The defection of 4 of the 5 teams that had/have options to move (OU being the exception, along it sounds as if the Pac 12 presidents had approved, they'd be gone too) has strengthened Dodds' hand. The only teams with leverage are gone. The remaining teams are either tied to UT or OU, or have no other options in a solidly-AQ league.
Texas does not care about negative publicity. They want the easiest, most lucrative path to championship games. And the moment that the Big 12 does not provide that, they're gone.
But for right now, why would they leave? They have veto power over the number of teams in conference (who else wants to stay at 10?) They have de facto control over not only their own Tier 3 games, but (from Byrne's email) they are working to gain control over others as well.
If you trust Texas to act in the interests of long term Big 12 success, that's OK. I just don't see it taking place.
(BTW, **** Vitale said tonight that Missouri belongs in the Big 12. Chalk up one MORE good reason to leave...) :smile:
Well, that's a great point. In Missouri, the A/V technicians that set up the conference calls for the Curators and made the access number accessible to the public rather than only credentialed media, are the SAME people that review legal documents and analyze financial reports for the University.
We find it's more cost-effective that way.
(not even going to bother with a pirate...)
Based on what we've seen from the curators, the AV people are probably the smartest people there.
It's hard to ignore Mizzoulander's posts when people keep quoting him. Everyone should put him on their ignore list and he would go away (even if he doesn't ACTUALLY go away).
For the record, Nebraska and aTm were against revenue sharing when they were in the Big 12. Along with Texas and Oklahoma. If Nebraska and aTm had been for revenue sharing in the Big 12 from the beginning it is doubtful we would have had these issues today.
That is one of the main reasons why those teams had to leave before we could get any of the proposed changes.
Can't wait to get your check for the maximum amount of Exit fees. And the latest predictions for your projected bowl in the SEC next year is the TOILET BOWL.
To be champions, Texas needs to start winning basic games. I am beginning to think the management of their football team needs an upgrade. I would think their bulletin boards would be howling by now like they are in Lincoln.
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That would help a lot of us.
To be fair to Mizzou, once you start chanting "SEC, SEC," it's hard to stop.
Speaking of A&M...how ironic (maybe?) is it that if they ever would play again at Texas...guess which network would be carrying the game 
BYU officially says "NO THANKS" to the Service Academy Conference, I mean Big East Conference. They never gave the Big 12 an official yes or no in the whole feeling out process.
I still think BYU/BSU or BYU/AFA is similar in value to Louisville/Cincy. There are plusses and minuses with either one. If you go to 14 that's your 4.
Big 12 is still not being predatory at all. The ACC took 6 teams from the Big East. The Big 12 simply took the one best athletic program available to replace a defector when it could have easily taken another 1-4 teams the Big East needs to be relevant.
TCU never played a Big East game and they're a more logical fit in the Big 12. That was just timing, not poaching.
I still think there's a chance some or all of these CUSA and MWC schools realize they're MUCH better off going with their original idea of a championship game and mega conference with a huge east and west division for football only.
I still think BYU/BSU or BYU/AFA is similar in value to Louisville/Cincy. There are plusses and minuses with either one. If you go to 14 that's your 4.
Big 12 is still not being predatory at all. The ACC took 6 teams from the Big East. The Big 12 simply took the one best athletic program available to replace a defector when it could have easily taken another 1-4 teams the Big East needs to be relevant.
TCU never played a Big East game and they're a more logical fit in the Big 12. That was just timing, not poaching.
I still think there's a chance some or all of these CUSA and MWC schools realize they're MUCH better off going with their original idea of a championship game and mega conference with a huge east and west division for football only.
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Jon Wilner
Source: "The ACC will go to 16.''
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Also told that ADs from FBS schools believe Rutgers & UConn could head to ACC and BE would cease to exist as fball conf
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Those teams announce plans to jump, B12 extends lifevests to Louisville & Cinci for a later date no blood on the b12 hands for killing the BE
WVU is no longer on a island.Simple yes?
North
WVU
Louisville
Cinci
ISU
KU
KSU
South
OU
Texas
TCU
OSU
Baylor
Tech
Seems simple WVU wont be on a island & would have regional games, if we wanted to 14 in 2015 we could easily with the Florida twins (USF,UCF), just move KSU to the South
Jon Wilner
Source: "The ACC will go to 16.''
@wilnerhotline
Jon Wilner
Also told that ADs from FBS schools believe Rutgers & UConn could head to ACC and BE would cease to exist as fball conf
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Those teams announce plans to jump, B12 extends lifevests to Louisville & Cinci for a later date no blood on the b12 hands for killing the BE
WVU is no longer on a island.Simple yes?
North
WVU
Louisville
Cinci
ISU
KU
KSU
South
OU
Texas
TCU
OSU
Baylor
Tech
Seems simple WVU wont be on a island & would have regional games, if we wanted to 14 in 2015 we could easily with the Florida twins (USF,UCF), just move KSU to the South
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No thanks on Cinci. I'd rather have any number of available teams including BYU, Rutgers, New Mexico, Memphis, USF, UCF, Tulane, Boise State, Air Force, UConn, etc.
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