Not a fighter but this guy got the book thrown at him because he was a lethal weapon.
Spencer Jones
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There are no special rules, but I believe it's one of those things that can be argued based on the training/skills you have. You can use the minimum necessary force to defend yourself. Is there a point where a trained fighter crosses the minimum necessary imaginary line?
Ah, Chris' Go Go. The good ole days, indeed.
As many have referenced, there is an enormous difference between a fighter and an athlete. I don't care how much you can bench, how fast you run, how big your muscles are, etc., those wrestlers and MMA dudes are a different breed.
I can remember certain people of this background at college parties and it always seemed to be a "not if but when" with them getting in a fight.
I can remember certain people of this background at college parties and it always seemed to be a "not if but when" with them getting in a fight.
The short, quick punch followed by a takedown is an effective way to shut a guy up. Seen it happen a few times up close and it ended ugly.
FWIW, Parizek was on 1460 this AM and he thought it would be a tough case against the MMA guy.
Most of the time it's all about speed. I've seen huge musclebound guys get owned by much smaller guys who knew how to fight because the big guys just move so slow. Before they know what's happening they've taken a half-dozen shots to the head.
I think the excessive would come from you took him down and punched him a bunch, obviously won the fight, but did you also need the rear naked choke hold? (Not sure what that move actually is, just heard it before.)
It may be a tough case, but you know a lawyer will sure try.
Either way, I still enjoyed the video.
Per some reports floating around, the Askren look-alike turned to his colleague and was honestly not interested in fighting but then the douche canoe in the denim coat pushed him and that was kind of it.
Also, bowing up and saying "Get the f__k outta' here," is not deescalating. If Spencer Jones' representative believes that, I have a bridge to sell him.
Also, bowing up and saying "Get the f__k outta' here," is not deescalating. If Spencer Jones' representative believes that, I have a bridge to sell him.
I have been in both spots. Got my ass kicked and kick some ass. Neither time did any lawyers get involved. I took my loss and went home. Every fight I have ever been in the loser goes home and it’s over. Also never even had to hire a lawyer to be my spokesperson either. Take your beating and move on. Especially if you were instigating like Spencer and Canadian tuxedo guy
Funniest bar fight I ever saw was in the balcony of the Billboard bar in Ames (long gone) 2 guys went at it tipped over about 3 of those tall bar tables their friends split them up before the bouncers got upstairs, denied there was a problem, then 10 minutes later the 2 that got into it were splitting a pitcher. Alcohol can lead to some interesting stories/results.
To me the only really excessive thing I saw was the end with the dude in the beanie and denim guy.
Im interested to hear how it all got started.
I would say he did not get excessive. It's not the UFC with a ref. When you are in a bar fight you have to win and go hard if nobody is stepping in. If you allow the guy back up and back off, a lot of guys will restart the fight now that they are not getting beat. Every fight I have been in with the exception of one was broken up and there was a little blood. One I had the guy down. Thought I did enough and stopped, dude got back up and started throwing again. I think part of the problem these days is people not breaking the fight up. Usually you kind of do a hockey fight type situation. When someone get's the upper hand and lands a few, people should jump in and stop it.
I was surprised by that too. Especially at the end when beanie guy was wailing on turtleneck boy, who looked to be out cold from the throw into the wall.
That’s the part I didn’t like.
The rest, whatever. Tough to judge one side or the other without knowing exactly what caused it.
I'm guessing most of those guys saw what was happening and didn't try to break it up in fear of getting themselves in a similar situation as Jones and Turtleneck. The thing I hate about society these days is the fact that somebody took the effort to record video of the fight but nobody thought to stop it.
Too much WWE influence there as guy recording it gives blow by blow commentary and cheers them on.
Idiots in a huddle. If they have that kind of need to fight, I suggest a tour in the U.S. Marines where it will be used to some good purpose.
