Root against the other teams at the top, right?

[CapnCy]

Yes, that was a conference game. You may be thinking of KState and Arizona. That was a Non-Con.

Oh yeah, my bad...thanks for the clarifier.

 

[rosshm16]

I'm a spiteful fan, I root for KSU to lose every week because they have a lot of obnoxious Tavern Hawk-type fans and because of Jerome Tang. Same thing for BYU because of the 2013 basketball incident and that delusional "BYU Dad" poster that farted around here for a bit.

Don't care in the slightest if their losses make our hypothetical future wins against them less impactful. We control our own destiny, just win'em all!

 

[Cyrocks]

I'm a spiteful fan, I root for KSU to lose every week because they have a lot of obnoxious Tavern Hawk-type fans and because of Jerome Tang. Same thing for BYU because of the 2013 basketball incident and that delusional "BYU Dad" poster that farted around here for a bit.

Don't care in the slightest if their losses make our hypothetical future wins against them less impactful. We control our own destiny, just win'em all!

Just teasing you.

 

[AllInForISU]

FYI Boise isn't undefeated. And while there are certainly scenarios (like a 3-loss Big 12 champ) where they get jumped by a non-P4 champ, its highly, highly unlikely. There is a much higher probability that the Big 12 could leap the ACC IMO.

This entire "the media is anti-Big 12" conspiracy theory is going a bit to far, in my opinion. This morning, I have seen at least 3 playoff projections from well respected media (Athletic/NYT, Brett McMurphy, Sporting News) all had 2 Big 12 teams included. If there are two 1-loss Big 12 teams or better, I think its very likely both get it - although it does matter what happens to other teams too.

True, I forgot about the good loss to Oregon. I don’t know how they are ranked so high currently. It makes no sense.

 

[Kettes]

I posted this in another thread, but it still applies here. I don't think they can leapfrog an undefeated or 1-loss Big XII champ, but...

"Army looks legitimately good. I don't think it's far-fetched at all that they finish undefeated and win the AAC. I'd be curious to see what happens to their ranking, if that happens. There's a very real world where Boise trucks UNLV and wins the MWC on the back of Jeanty, Army wins the American, and there's some attrition in the back half of conference play that leads to a 2-loss team winning the Big XII. In that scenario I think our conference winner's spot in the playoff as a whole could be in serious jeopardy.

Especially if Texas Tech or Cincy finish strong and end up winning it while looking extremely poor in the non-con."

Based upon what, exactly? None of the teams Army has beaten have a winning record. Zero.

 

[Cyclonsin]

Based upon what, exactly? None of the teams Army has beaten have a winning record. Zero.

Right, but in this scenario they'd have a win over ND and 2 wins over Navy. That's 3 wins that can be sold as good wins. Also, there's zero chance an undefeated AAC champion service academy doesn't get in. Everyone would want to see it and it would be a ratings gold mine.

A lot has to go wrong for this to play out (including some attrition in the Big XII and Boise winning out), but the odds aren't zero.

 

[ClubCy]

So many certainties and everyone talking in absolutes when the CFP has yet to release a ranking. Very informative.

 

[nfrine]

So many certainties and everyone talking in absolutes when the CFP has yet to release a ranking. Very informative.

Never underestimate CF...never.

 

[Cychl82]

Isn’t that what we want? Root against the other Big 12 teams with one conference loss or fewer. Root for teams above us in the national rankings to lose.

100% want to see BYU lose soon

 

[danvillecyclone]

BYU loses this Saturday

 

[VeloClone]

BYU would have to loss twice for them not to make the playoff. They have the tiebreaker over KSU after already beating them. So unless they lose 2 more games, they are in the championship game.

I believe that only works for a two way tiebreaker. If it is a three way tie breaker even if ISU beats KSU as well, BYU and ISU don't play each other so they don't use head to head between the tied teams. They only use the head to head between tied teams if they have all played each other.

 

[Erik4Cy]

I suppose we're rooting this Saturday for:

#20 Illinois over #1 Oregon
Wisconsin over #3 Penn State
Nebraska over #4 Ohio St
#25 Vandy over #5 Texas
Florida State over #6 Miami
#14 Texas A&M over #8 LSU

#2 Georgia, #7 Tennessee, & #9 Clemson all share a BYE week with #10 Iowa State.

Those three come back to Florida, Kentucky, & Louisville, respectively, in week 10.

 

[VeloClone]

I suppose we're rooting this Saturday for:

#20 Illinois over #1 Oregon
Wisconsin over #3 Penn State
Nebraska over #4 Ohio St
#25 Vandy over #5 Texas
Florida State over #6 Miami
#14 Texas A&M over #8 LSU

#2 Georgia, #7 Tennessee, & #9 Clemson all share a BYE week with #10 Iowa State.

Those three come back to Florida, Kentucky, & Louisville, respectively, in week 10.

I'm looking forward to both Illinois and eATMe passing ISU in the polls after they complete the upset this weekend.

 

[Big_Sill]

I suppose we're rooting this Saturday for:

#20 Illinois over #1 Oregon
Wisconsin over #3 Penn State
Nebraska over #4 Ohio St
#25 Vandy over #5 Texas
Florida State over #6 Miami
#14 Texas A&M over #8 LSU

#2 Georgia, #7 Tennessee, & #9 Clemson all share a BYE week with #10 Iowa State.

Those three come back to Florida, Kentucky, & Louisville, respectively, in week 10.

If Illinois beats Oregon, likely they would appear ahead of us if CFP rankings came out this week.

I say let Oregon run the table.

 

[AppleCornCy]

If Illinois beats Oregon, likely they would appear ahead of us if CFP rankings came out this week.

I say let Oregon run the table.

I have this scenario in my head where Illinois beats Oregon and then they both win out. Penn State loses to Wisconsin and then beats Ohio State. Indiana wins all of their remaining games except Ohio State.

You would have a four-way tie at the top between Illinois, Oregon, Penn State, and Indiana. Ohio State would be a game back with two losses. I wonder how they would rig the tiebreakers to make the championship game Oregon vs Penn State.

 

[werdnamanhill]

I suppose we're rooting this Saturday for:

#20 Illinois over #1 Oregon
Wisconsin over #3 Penn State
Nebraska over #4 Ohio St
#25 Vandy over #5 Texas
Florida State over #6 Miami
#14 Texas A&M over #8 LSU

#2 Georgia, #7 Tennessee, & #9 Clemson all share a BYE week with #10 Iowa State.

Those three come back to Florida, Kentucky, & Louisville, respectively, in week 10.

Got to root for UCF over BYU and KU over KSU as well

 

[cycloneML]

BYU loses this Saturday

You could be onto something . Gus M is a genius. We dodged a bullet.

 

[danvillecyclone]

You could be onto something . Gus M is a genius. We dodged a bullet.

The line opened at BYU -2

It is now UCF -1.5

…and it’s only Wednesday

 

[Thomasrickj]

I don't know what to do

I don't trust the committee, and I believe there is an anti BIg 12 bias in the media, but I feel like ISU fans are taking the cynicism too far. I get we live with our nut cups on, but if ISU is 12-0 and loses to a 12-0 BYU team in the championship game, ISU is a lock for the playoff and has a decent chance for a home game. It's tough to tell at this point.

While I think it's ok to wear a tinfoil hat, some of you guys need to turn down the power on your antenna.

IF enough teams ahead of us lose another game or two, I'd believe you on this one. A one loss Iowa State with a close loss to BYU in the Big 12 'ship would probably mean we're an away team, but still make it in. The biggest thing ISU fans need to cheer for is a Pitt loss. If Pitt runs the table then loses to Miami in the ACC 'ship then we have to worry about Clemson potentially coming in ahead of us with two losses (this assumes being runner up in the ACC gets spot), assuming we lose to BYU.

 

[ISUCyclones2015]

I get the cynicism that a 9-3 brand name will get the nod over a 10-2 B12 team, but do people actually think a 12-1 non-champ is getting left out of a 12-team playoff? We already ran this test case with TCU in 2022.

TCU beat Texas and Oklahoma. Neither BYU or ISU could say that.

It would be a travesty if we’re both undefeated and the loser gets left out (barring some 70-0 stuff) but they’re not exactly 1-1 comparisons