Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[FriendlySpartan]

Then why are they playing in the B10 if the league did not want them? They had them over a barrel and took advantage of the situation, that is what the league does. Use its money and its academic standing to get teams to do what they want at are reduced rate if necessary. Nothing wrong with that, but you are like a lot of B10 fans thinking you and the conference is above all this unequal revenue sharing, when you are doing it now.

For new schools yeah, you’re talking about doing unequal sharing for established members in established conferences. Oregon and Washington came begging, they couldn’t get a full share with the media deal where it was so were offered half and they took it. No one forced them, they could have gone to the Big12 or ACC

 

[FriendlySpartan]

BS, they are coming off a national championship season, they have not given up, no fan of a blue blood program gives up on a season. They may not win the title again, but its not like they are going to 4-8 either.

You have zero idea what you’re talking about. And that’s beyond clear with this. It’s because of the natty last year that the fan base is more apathetic this season but yeah everyone has written off the season.

But again feel free to tell me how Michigan alums/fans are feeling, I’ll tell you how ISU fans are feeling

 

[KnappShack]

This seems good.

 

[1SEIACLONE]

You have zero idea what you’re talking about. And that’s beyond clear with this. It’s because of the natty last year that the fan base is more apathetic this season but yeah everyone has written off the season.

But again feel free to tell me how Michigan alums/fans are feeling, I’ll tell you how ISU fans are feeling

Lets face this, unless you are the T Boone Pickens of Michigan and Michigan State, you know about us much about this issue as the rest of us. Stop coming on here acting like you are on the inside and are the voice of the U of M.

 

[Gonzo]

Lets face this, unless you are the T Boone Pickens of Michigan and Michigan State, you know about us much about this issue as the rest of us. Stop coming on here acting like you are on the inside and are the voice of the U of M.

Lol, I don't think you have to be a billionaire donor to have a better grasp of a program and the mood of its fanbase. Seems kind of silly to think you know just as much about the vibe around Michigan's program as an alum and fan. How many Michigan fans have you spoken with about their thoughts on this season?

 

[Big_Sill]

The NFL is coming for Saturday. The media / networks will be forced to create a CFB product that can directly compete with the NFL, or maybe just try to stay relevant as $’s dry up. This means more Michigan vs Texas, and less Indiana vs Rutgers. This will drive the super league formation, with the lower teams getting effectively relegated.

 

[CascadeClone]

I’ll defer that to you as it was way before I was born and personally think it has nothing to do with modern football. But you’re technically correct which is the best kind of correct

Love an obscure Futurama reference

 

[CascadeClone]

This seems good.

Its good but thats still only a middle-value game wrt viewership. The big money is 5m+, and playoff games and ccgs are more like 10m.
The value to media is more exponential than linear as a function of viewers.

The 30-40m per team contract expects these kinds of numbers. P2 money expects a lot of 5m+ games.

 

[Cloneon]

The NFL is coming for Saturday. The media / networks will be forced to create a CFB product that can directly compete with the NFL, or maybe just try to stay relevant as $’s dry up. This means more Michigan vs Texas, and less Indiana vs Rutgers. This will drive the super league formation, with the lower teams getting effectively relegated.

The gaming industry has changed the Fandom model as it now drives interest across typical boundaries. That, in itself, is morphing the entire sports landscape. So, you're spot on. Whoever wins the time slot, will thrive. And because of that sports will compete against each other. The key difference being the playoffs where the greatest interest resides. Expect those to not overlap.

 

[Icky_Mettle]

Sources: ACC exploring new revenue structure to resolve Florida State, Clemson lawsuits

The conference’s presidents recently examined a proposal that would distribute revenue differently to conference members in a move to provide stability and preserve its current membership.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[theshadow]

Well, you claim the B12 had unequal revenue sharing. And it didnt, so.....

The Tier 3 was not unequal revenue sharing, because the conference did not distribute that revenue. The conference did not hold those contracts to distribute that money. The distribution from the conference was equal.

The only true unequal revenue sharing happened Decades ago, in the time you say you dont care about and has nothing to do with modern football.

There was still unequal revenue distribution in the Big 12 well after Pollard arrived.

*50% of the TV money was split up equally.
*The other 50% was divided up based on (1) number of TV appearances and (2) which network you were on.

So, the teams that were on every week (UT, OU, NU) would routinely haul in 25-30% more than schools like ISU, BU and OSU. At that time, the payout disparity between the top and ISU worked out to an amount equal to around 8-10% of ISU's annual budget. Even giving out the average to everybody would have been a 3% boost to the ISU budget.

 

[BCClone]

Well, you claim the B12 had unequal revenue sharing. And it didnt, so.....

The Tier 3 was not unequal revenue sharing, because the conference did not distribute that revenue. The conference did not hold those contracts to distribute that money. The distribution from the conference was equal.

The only true unequal revenue sharing happened Decades ago, in the time you say you dont care about and has nothing to do with modern football.

Not true on the last part. Boise gets more than other MWC and I believe there are schools receiving more than others in the AAC.

 

[2speedy1]

There was still unequal revenue distribution in the Big 12 well after Pollard arrived.

*50% of the TV money was split up equally.
*The other 50% was divided up based on (1) number of TV appearances and (2) which network you were on.

So, the teams that were on every week (UT, OU, NU) would routinely haul in 25-30% more than schools like ISU, BU and OSU. At that time, the payout disparity between the top and ISU worked out to an amount equal to around 8-10% of ISU's annual budget. Even giving out the average to everybody would have been a 3% boost to the ISU budget.

Thanks for the correction. I thought that ended when the big12 was formed, still in the 90s yes but I thought that was the end.

 

[2speedy1]

Not true on the last part. Boise gets more than other MWC and I believe there are schools receiving more than others in the AAC.

I guess I was thinking more in the line of P4-5. Not much of an idea how most of those G5 and below contracts are handled.

 

[RustShack]

You have zero idea what you’re talking about. And that’s beyond clear with this.

That’s been clear for awhile. Especially the last few weeks he’s been dropping L’s left and right.

 

[HouClone]

Obviously no details yet but not sure if this ACC unequal revenue sharing idea is good or bad for us. A diminished and fractured ACC is what we want.

 

[OnlyCyclones]

The NFL is coming for Saturday. The media / networks will be forced to create a CFB product that can directly compete with the NFL, or maybe just try to stay relevant as $’s dry up. This means more Michigan vs Texas, and less Indiana vs Rutgers. This will drive the super league formation, with the lower teams getting effectively relegated.

I question whether the Super League would get enough viewership competing directly with the NFL to make their league much of a “breakaway.” If everyone is a broke b***h, then no one is very “super”. What casuals will tune into Super League minor league football when they could watch the NFL? Heck, maybe even markets like Iowa that don’t have a more collegiate footprint would be more advantaged versus the Texas’s of the world than they are now.

 

[RustShack]

I question whether the Super League would get enough viewership competing directly with the NFL to make their league much of a “breakaway.” If everyone is a broke b***h, then no one is very “super”. What casuals will tune into Super League minor league football when they could watch the NFL? Heck, maybe even markets like Iowa that don’t have a more collegiate footprint would be more advantaged versus the Texas’s of the world than they are now.

The super league would be grossly overpaid to start. But it will flop just like any other lower level version of the NFL has. If you take away what makes college football great, well then it’s not great anymore. Put all the top teams in one conference, and a lot of them won’t be on top anymore. Fair weather fans stop supporting losing teams. They won’t be as entertaining when they aren’t winning 10+ games a year on a normal basis.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

The NFL is coming for Saturday. The media / networks will be forced to create a CFB product that can directly compete with the NFL, or maybe just try to stay relevant as $’s dry up. This means more Michigan vs Texas, and less Indiana vs Rutgers. This will drive the super league formation, with the lower teams getting effectively relegated.

They are going to have to clear a lot of legal barriers for this and NFL has no desire to kill the college product and their talent pipeline so highly doubt this

 

[NWICY]

How come USC and UCLA did not get a buy in period this round but Oregon and Washington did?

Im guessing because Los Angeles.