Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

Gorm

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I like Tony's numerical data on the podcasts I've seen with him, but that is a hell of a hardline take which could be proven wrong here before July.
 

Stormin

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So the PAC 12 is ready to sign a GOR. They just can’t get a decent media contract. Kind of a major hurdle.
 

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I like Tony's numerical data on the podcasts I've seen with him, but that is a hell of a hardline take which could be proven wrong here before July.
His data is all biased and flawed. He strategically picks data to fit his narrative, and most of the time uses numbers a decade or more old.

His data is just like his profile pic, from 20 years ago, to make it look better.
 

Gorm

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His data is all biased and flawed. He strategically picks data to fit his narrative, and most of the time uses numbers a decade or more old.

His data is just like his profile pic, from 20 years ago, to make it look better.

I would agree on his cherry picking of the data to fit his narrative.
 

Nolaeer

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The four corners schools have to know Washington and oregon have a foot out the door.

The real question is whether they want to be in a PAC without USC, UCLA, Washington, or Oregon or the Big 12.

I wonder what their TV deal is worth without Oregon and Washington? 12 million per team?
 

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UCONN is a blue blood in MBBall now imo. There aren’t many opportunities for a non Big 10/SEC to add blue bloods in FB or BBall. Think you gotta go for that.

Uconn has been a blue blood for 25 years. They have 5 titles since 99. Pretty sure that is the most of any school.
 
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I like Tony's numerical data on the podcasts I've seen with him, but that is a hell of a hardline take which could be proven wrong here before July.
Tony is dumb as hell when it comes to this realignment. The conclusions he draws from data are shockingly stupid sometimes.

My favorite point of his is still his mic drop when Arizona State opened up some satellite arts department building in LA as proof there's no way ASU would ever leave the PAC.
 

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There are rumors the verbally agreed on PAC10 GOR unequal revenue sharing would be based on Football only, not basketball. That won't go over well with Arizona and likely Colorado as we know the state of the FB programs.
 

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His data is all biased and flawed. He strategically picks data to fit his narrative, and most of the time uses numbers a decade or more old.

His data is just like his profile pic, from 20 years ago, to make it look better.
His original big report post-OuT (which I downloaded) was a reasonable effort to overview the universe. He used certain data as proxies for relevant info that could not be had, and some of that was not very good. He doubled the value of AAU and the US News Rankings, overweighted recent football success. But he doesn't pay near enough attention to the concept of "money talks". Otherwise Rice would be in the SEC.

I thought his ratings of potential Big12 adds was pretty spot on, FWIW.

I thought his point about some schools just being culturally similar (due to size, academic standing, sports success, etc) was interesting and reasonable. But he overthought and overweighted that by a metric ton. Yes Florida and Texas are more like Michigan than Alabama, but that doesn't mean they are going to slide over to the B1G just because of that.

What is funny now, is that he put about 50 pages extolling the "Alliance": such super strong academics! Cal! Stanford! UNC! Michigan! Yay! Research agreements are bigger than sports! And how wonderful all the cross-pollination of administrators in the 3 conferences was. But the Alliance turned out to be the Big10's Operation Barbarossa. He totally misread the outcome, because he ignored the money.

I suspect he focused so much on all the research money, academics, etc is because that was designed to entice those kinds of administrators to plunk down money for some consulting services. Usually these kind of free reports from consultants are about 50% repackaged public info, and 50% marketing effort. There's a lot of "future is scary" in there too, to push people to buy some knowledge.

Tellingly, his data shows that Az, Utah, ASU and even Oregon are MUCH closer the Big12 on his sports/academics chart than they are to the other P12 members (see pic). Someone should send him a that chart! Yet he screams the Big12 is so far beneath them - dude, read your own data.
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It's crazy that in a situation where media money and brand value are driving the bus, he basically ignores it.
 
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His original big report post-OuT (which I downloaded) was a reasonable effort to overview the universe. He used certain data as proxies for relevant info that could not be had, and some of that was not very good. He doubled the value of AAU and the US News Rankings, overweighted recent football success. But he doesn't pay near enough attention to the concept of "money talks". Otherwise Rice would be in the SEC.

I thought his ratings of potential Big12 adds was pretty spot on, FWIW.

I thought his point about some schools just being culturally similar (due to size, academic standing, sports success, etc) was interesting and reasonable. But he overthought and overweighted that by a metric ton. Yes Florida and Texas are more like Michigan than Alabama, but that doesn't mean they are going to slide over to the B1G just because of that.

What is funny now, is that he put about 50 pages extolling the "Alliance": such super strong academics! Cal! Stanford! UNC! Michigan! Yay! Research agreements are bigger than sports! And how wonderful all the cross-pollination of administrators in the 3 conferences was. But the Alliance turned out to be the Big10's Operation Barbarossa. He totally misread the outcome, because he ignored the money.

I suspect he focused so much on all the research money, academics, etc is because that was designed to entice those kinds of administrators to plunk down money for some consulting services. Usually these kind of free reports from consultants are about 50% repackaged public info, and 50% marketing effort. There's a lot of "future is scary" in there too, to push people to buy some knowledge.

Tellingly, his data shows that Az, Utah, ASU and even Oregon are MUCH closer the Big12 on his sports/academics chart than they are to the other P12 members (see pic). Someone should send him a that chart! Yet he screams the Big12 is so far beneath them - dude, read your own data.
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It's crazy that in a situation where media money and brand value are driving the bus, he basically ignores it.
If I'm reading this chart right, Colorado, Oregon State, and Wazzu would be near perfect fits in the Big XII while Oregon, ASU, UA, and Utah are more closely aligned with the Big XII than PAC outliers of UW, Stanford, USC, and UCLA.
 
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