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Back in his day it was probably a little more common. It’s not a really common thing now in my opinion.
I always thought the purpose of a tie was to cover the buttons in a shirt.
I always thought that most of our "business wear" (jacket, tie, even the occasional vest) came from Northern Europe - namely Britian - and it was all based on keeping your ass warm in that cold, wet climate. A jacket and vest obviously provide layers with the ability to pull up your lapels and collar against a cold wind. The tie was to pull it all together at the neck and keep the draft from the neck. Which makes business attire all the more stupid in any sort of warm weather clime. Dudes sweating themselves to death in Arizona in a suit and tie are ridiculous, but that is often what it expected.

My brother had a battle on the ties at work thing. He was managing a factory and they had a dress code for all the professional (engineers, managers, etc.) staff of a button down shirt and tie. Since it was warm in the factory it was almost exclusively short sleeve shirts worn and since they were working around equipment they all had to be clip on ties for safety. A pretty miserable look. My brother was pushing for uniform polos with a company logo. He got a lot of push back from the old guard, "But that is the way we have always done it." But in the end he was able to convince them that a nice company polo was presenting as good or better look than a short sleeved button down and a crappy clip on.
 
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I always thought that most of our "business wear" (jacket, tie, even the occasional vest) came from Northern Europe - namely Britian - and it was all based on keeping your ass warm in that cold, wet climate. A jacket and vest obviously provides layers with the ability to pull up your lapels and collar against a cold wind. The tie was to pull it all together at the neck and keep the draft from the neck. Which makes business attire all the more stupid in any sort of warm weather clime. Dudes sweating themselves to death in Arizona in a suit and tie are ridiculous, but that is often what it expected.

My brother had a battle on the ties at work thing. He was managing a factory and they had a dress code for all the professional (engineers, managers, etc.) staff of a button down shirt and tie. Since it was warm in the factory it was almost exclusively short sleeve shirts worn and since they were working around equipment they all had to be clip on ties for safety. A pretty miserable look. My brother was pushing for uniform polos with a company logo. He got a lot of push back from the old guard, "But that is the way we have always done it." But in the end he was able to convince them that a nice company polo was presenting as good or better look than a short sleeved button down and a crappy clip on.
I did some work in Dallas at a company that required suits. It was hot. You couldn't wait to get that tie off.
 

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My father is an Aggie, Corps to the core. He was an old-school Aeronautical Engineer at Boeing. He had a closet full of dark grey, dark blue and black suits and white shirts...ALL white shirts. Some mild variation in the ties, but mostly narrow and single color (as opposed to patterned).
My BIL is also an Aggie, but was a "townie". He was a hippie with hair to his shoulders and a Fu Manchu. He wore ragged jeans & t shirts to class. He went straight to IBM after graduation, He wore short-sleeved shirts to work, and slacks. No tie. No suit. No haircut and no change to facial hair.

We're talking MAJOR culture clash here. Let's just say family get-togethers were somewhat rare, and often tense between the two of them in the early years. :D
 

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I always thought that most of our "business wear" (jacket, tie, even the occasional vest) came from Northern Europe - namely Britian - and it was all based on keeping your ass warm in that cold, wet climate. A jacket and vest obviously provide layers with the ability to pull up your lapels and collar against a cold wind. The tie was to pull it all together at the neck and keep the draft from the neck. Which makes business attire all the more stupid in any sort of warm weather clime. Dudes sweating themselves to death in Arizona in a suit and tie are ridiculous, but that is often what it expected.

My brother had a battle on the ties at work thing. He was managing a factory and they had a dress code for all the professional (engineers, managers, etc.) staff of a button down shirt and tie. Since it was warm in the factory it was almost exclusively short sleeve shirts worn and since they were working around equipment they all had to be clip on ties for safety. A pretty miserable look. My brother was pushing for uniform polos with a company logo. He got a lot of push back from the old guard, "But that is the way we have always done it." But in the end he was able to convince them that a nice company polo was presenting as good or better look than a short sleeved button down and a crappy clip on.

Real use for neckties:
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I won't elaborate, you can all make up your own ending.
 
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My father is an Aggie, Corps to the core. He was an old-school Aeronautical Engineer at Boeing. He had a closet full of dark grey, dark blue and black suits and white shirts...ALL white shirts. Some mild variation in the ties, but mostly narrow and single color (as opposed to patterned).
My BIL is also an Aggie, but was a "townie". He was a hippie with hair to his shoulders and a Fu Manchu. He wore ragged jeans & t shirts to class. He went straight to IBM after graduation, He wore short-sleeved shirts to work, and slacks. No tie. No suit. No haircut and no change to facial hair.

We're talking MAJOR culture clash here. Let's just say family get-togethers were somewhat rare, and often tense between the two of them in the early years. :D

Your dad was a Marine, too? Something else we have in common........
 

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Your dad was a Marine, too? Something else we have in common........
Nope. Son is a Marine. Daddy was in the Corps of Cadets at A&M...turned down a battlefield commission in WWII because (if he survived) he wanted to be able to return to A&M and the Corps of Cadets after the war, and it is an enlisted "unit".
 

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I learned this week at there is going to be a new Dr Doolittle movie. I have a feeling that RDJ will not be singing in it, but the trailer looks interesting. It looks like a closer adaption to the musical one.
 

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I learned this week at there is going to be a new Dr Doolittle movie. I have a feeling that RDJ will not be singing in it, but the trailer looks interesting. It looks like a closer adaption to the musical one.
I'm not up on the Doolittle movies other than seeing the original Rex Harrison many MANY moons ago, and knowing that Eddie Murphy starred in a remake. Who is RDJ?
 

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Nope. Son is a Marine. Daddy was in the Corps of Cadets at A&M...turned down a battlefield commission in WWII because (if he survived) he wanted to be able to return to A&M and the Corps of Cadets after the war, and it is an enlisted "unit".

Well, we still have something in common - daughter #2 Shelby was a Marine. :)
 

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I'm not up on the Doolittle movies other than seeing the original Rex Harrison many MANY moons ago, and knowing that Eddie Murphy starred in a remake. Who is RDJ?

I refused to watch the Eddie Murphy version. Something about his comedy... I don't know....

Robert Downey Jr or Iron Man/Sherlock.... :) Tom H AKA Spiderman is in it too.
 

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I refused to watch the Eddie Murphy version. Something about his comedy... I don't know....

Robert Downey Jr or Iron Man/Sherlock.... :) Tom H AKA Spiderman is in it too.
Seriously? He's in it? I may have to watch it. I should have recognized the initials just because, but I never made that connection in my head.
 
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