Pollard Addresses MBB

[joefrog]

Dear God. If Jamie Pollard is fired, then we might have some REAL problems. I'm getting really concerned with some people in our fan base when they want to fire the guy that has raised athletic department revenue, improved facilities, and improved the athletic department's success as a whole. Yeah, things aren't going well for MBB right now. But I see that as more of an anomaly than as the norm...

Is it a fact that the childish and rude email posted here was indeed written by JP?

Did JP let Kindler and Cael out of Ames without much of a fight, two very talented and young coaches?

Did JP fire WM and say men's bball is ISU athletics, and then replace him with a coach that has ran that program into the ground?

Did JP give Chizik a contract extension after going 5-19 at ISU?

Has JP neglected the horrible physical appearance around Hilton Coliseum?

I find it astonishing that people cannot realize that our AD has quite a few negatives too. And his arrogance concerning "his" guy as coach of the men's bball team is insulting to most of us.

I was a huge JP fan too. Have spoken with him several times. I want to still feel the way about him that many here do. But I can't anymore. There is too much evidence there now that makes my doubts go stronger everyday.

Do people honestly believe that there are not going to be some uncomfortable situations at the tailgates this summer? Do they really plan on dragging McD around the state and showing him off? To who? And why?

 

[cstrunk]

I get that argument, but if the AD is doing so well how come we don't have enough money to get rid of this horrible, horrible basketball coach in what is supposed to be our "flag ship" sport.

It's not that we're doing so well now. It's that we're on our way out of the big hole that we've been in forever. We're improved financially, but we're nowhere near being in a position that we need to be.

 

[acgclone]

Gmac and JP don't get paid to make excuses and social commentary (and they're paid very well, I might add).

 

[Cyclonestate78]

Makes me sick he puts BF and GM in the same breath.

This. I don't think there is anyway that BF should be being compared to GMAC and the issues of the men's program. BF has a track record of success, of developing players, of recruiting talented kids that excel on the court and in the classroom, and doing an outstanding job of X's and O's in games. There is no comparison to be made. It kind of ticks me off to think JP would sink to the level of trying to use BF as a human shield for GMAC.

 

[CyBobby]

I'm 38. I don't find his answer very acceptable.

I Agree with you and I'm 30 years Older than YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!:yes:

 

[BryceC]

Totally agree. It's a generational thing. Every older generation will always say that the younger generation is corrupt and immoral and has a poor work ethic. One poster here said that we are all lazy because people use riding mowers to mow their lawns! Here's a thought: as technology increases and things that make life easier like riding lawn mowers become available cheaper people will always use them. Why intentionally make life harder on yourself?

Things are different today. We don't have to use push mowers if we don't want to. It doesn't mean we are lazy, it means life is better now. There's a lot of disparaging remarks out there about our "instant gratification" society. What "you" need to understand is that in a lot of ways, that's how the world works now. If I can get what I want now, why should I wait a week or a year? What "we" need to understand is that not everything is about "instant gratification" and in some cases the quick answer isn't the right answer.

I for one use an unpowered reel mower, and if you don't, you're a lazy product of a wasteful society. Chew on that bud.

 

[joefrog]

The point I am trying to make with JP is that I want him to know that his seat should be getting somewhat warm also. I think some here excuse some awfully poor judgement calls just because revenues have gone up. All I want is some accountability for everyone involved.

 

[Palmer]

'you ungrateful kids! Get off my lawn!'

*shakes fist*


interesting defense.

 

[ddisu]

I for one use an unpowered reel mower, and if you don't, you're a lazy product of a wasteful society. Chew on that bud.

I use this guy. 60" deck, 25 hp engine. Mow at 8 mph. And all I have is a lot and a half. I do share it with my dad who has 4 lots. Chew on that.

 

[Frak]

Absolutely ridiculous response by Jamie.

Are transfers up across the nation? Signs point to yes. Does that mean that we dont have a problem? No. By the numbers, that's less than one transfer per school per year. We have been exceeding that average by a HUGE margin for the entirety of GMac's tenure. If we'd only had one transfer per year (still above average but a lot less) I'd be thrilled.

And bottom line... you get a little more tolerance for transfers when you're winning. The bottom line is GMac is one of a handful of BCS coaches who have failed to make a postseason in his 4 year tenure, and its doubtful he'll do any better next season, in large part due to the transfers he has had. If we were only at average losses this year and only losing say..... Buckley, we'd still have a much greater chance of doing something than we do now.

To me, it's all about your viewpoint. If you are looking at Pollard's letter as an excuse for why GMac isn't winning, then the email is just all BS. If you are looking at the letter as reasoning behind the transfers, then there is some validity to it. I choose the latter and that's why I have no problem mentioning BF...he HAS had some attrition. I believe that the letter was meant for people who see ISU through a fishbowl and are shocked by/complaining about the attrition. The point is that there is attrition everywhere. Now, it's definitely worse at ISU and GMac has done a worse job of dealing with it, but IMO that is besides the point of the letter. The basic point is "it's happening everywhere to some degree".

If we agree that this description of the culture is accurate and nationwide, then the next step is finding a coach who can deal with it and best minimize its impacts. BF has proven that he can do that. GMac doesn't have a lot of time left to prove he's that guy.

 

[vmbplayer]

'you ungrateful kids! Get off my lawn!'

*shakes fist*


interesting defense.

next year's Athletic Dept Christmas Tree

 

[WalkingCY]

Is it a fact that the childish and rude email posted here was indeed written by JP?

Did JP let Kindler and Cael out of Ames without much of a fight, two very talented and young coaches?

Did JP fire WM and say men's bball is ISU athletics, and then replace him with a coach that has ran that program into the ground?

Did JP give Chizik a contract extension after going 5-19 at ISU?

Has JP neglected the horrible physical appearance around Hilton Coliseum?

I find it astonishing that people cannot realize that our AD has quite a few negatives too. And his arrogance concerning "his" guy as coach of the men's bball team is insulting to most of us.

I was a huge JP fan too. Have spoken with him several times. I want to still feel the way about him that many here do. But I can't anymore. There is too much evidence there now that makes my doubts go stronger everyday.

Do people honestly believe that there are not going to be some uncomfortable situations at the tailgates this summer? Do they really plan on dragging McD around the state and showing him off? To who? And why?

Great Post.

It is time to start contacting Geoffrey IMO.. forget this "write Pollard ****"...the guy is unable to admit that HE made a big mistake in hiring this guy..and signing him to this horrible contract.......We all need to start contacting President Geoffrey, and in a big way. The man does involve himself with ISU Athletics, but needs a little pushing in this current situation. We will need very concerned alums/fans to email him/write letters to get some changes going with the Athletic Department. Now....if you see him at the spring game....and you very much disagree with our AD...please have a well informed discussion with him. Time to get the ball rolling on this.... or we will see GMAC here for at least another 3 years.....

 

[azn4cy]

'you ungrateful kids! Get off my lawn!'

*shakes fist*


interesting defense.

next year's MBB season ticket packages comes with a a complementary bottle of centrum silver.

 

[Palmer]

next year's MBB season ticket packages comes with a a complementary bottle of centrum silver.

someone needs to post a cast photo from Space Cowboys...giving a glaring look at all you wet behind the ears brats.


seriously.

I enjoy the hilarity.

 

[Frak]

Great Post.

It is time to start contacting Geoffrey IMO.. forget this "write Pollard ****"...the guy is unable to admit that HE made a big mistake in hiring this guy..and signing him to this horrible contract.......We all need to start contacting President Geoffrey, and in a big way. The man does involve himself with ISU Athletics, but needs a little pushing in this current situation. We will need very concerned alums/fans to email him/write letters to get some changes going with the Athletic Department. Now....if you see him at the spring game....and you very much disagree with our AD...please have a well informed discussion with him. Time to get the ball rolling on this.... or we will see GMAC here for at least another 3 years.....

That is f'in ridiculous. Yeah, start writing Geoffrey as he has plenty of time on his hands to worry about Chris Colvin and Justin Hamilton bailing. And if Pollard can't afford to buy out GMac, how would Geoffrey??? Really, what would you have Pollard do? Come out and state that he made a mistake? He can't do that if GMac is going to be our coach next year.

Bottom line is that I'm sure Geoffrey knows Pollards thoughts on the MBB situation. It's not Pollard being stubborn or proud or acting smarter than anyone. It's ISU not having enough money. Or, simply stated, it's the budget, dummy!

 

[joefrog]

Great Post.

It is time to start contacting Geoffrey IMO.. forget this "write Pollard ****"...the guy is unable to admit that HE made a big mistake in hiring this guy..and signing him to this horrible contract.......We all need to start contacting President Geoffrey, and in a big way. The man does involve himself with ISU Athletics, but needs a little pushing in this current situation. We will need very concerned alums/fans to email him/write letters to get some changes going with the Athletic Department. Now....if you see him at the spring game....and you very much disagree with our AD...please have a well informed discussion with him. Time to get the ball rolling on this.... or we will see GMAC here for at least another 3 years.....

I actually flew back from Denver late Sunday night with Dr. Geoffrey and his wife. Needless to say I didn't bother him with this stuff then. Sure I was tempted to, and we chatted a little because I was proudly rocking one of my sweet ISU hoodies. It was late, and our flight was delayed several times. He didn't need to be worrying about how horrible our men's bball is doing at that time.

I do think we are truly blessed to have Dr. Geoffrey as the head of our university. He really gets it. He is a very classy and respectful man, and he understands that strong athletics and academics usually go hand in hand. I do trust in his leadership, and feel that he has a point where he will act if he needs to.

 

[mustangcy]

You can go online and find some really interesting research articles about how 100-150 years ago the 'older' generation thought the 'younger' generation was lazy, entitled and was bound for failure.

 

[galactawitz]

Here is a link to an article posted in another forum.

Cyclone football: Jeff Woody in mix to be Alexander Robinson's backup | desmoinesregister.com | The Des Moines Register

Seems to me all kids aren't like the ones that are immature and leaving the program. Do I agree that kids have changed in the last decade. Yes. Do I believe that the majority are still good kids? Yes. There has to be some accountability somewhere to be able to tell the difference.

 

[GMan]

You can go online and find some really interesting research articles about how 100-150 years ago the 'older' generation thought the 'younger' generation was lazy, entitled and was bound for failure.

Yup, every generation thinks this. I'm 26 and I hear people my age talk about how the younger generation is spoiled, lazy, and entitled.

 

[Dryburn]

Wow.....I am not even sure what to say.

To drag BF into McDermott's mess? Are you serious? He is trying to equate BF's program with McDermott's in the fan's mind....don't fall for it. I'm amazed he would actually stoop that low.

Yeah, students today are more selfish. Why wouldn't they be? 25 years ago when students didn't transfer so much, stars in the NBA were not making millions EVERY YEAR playing basketball. Every half-way decent basketball player grows up thinking (and in many cases being pressured) he is going to make it to the NBA. If that plan gets derailed, then they get anxious and transfer.

So what? That is the nature of the game today. As JP himself points out, everyone is having to deal with it. Obviously, some coaches deal with it a lot better than others. Some can take the transfers in stride, and because of their coaching abilities, and past records, can merely reload their rosters, and continue winning. GMac is not one of those coaches. Why doesn't JP apparently see that? He fired a coach with a WINNING record. Granted, there were some other problems related to the program, but still.....how do you fire that coach, and allow this one to continue? Makes no sense. How the hell can you not seemingly put any of the blame on the condition of this program on GMac and yourself in the letter? Seriously? Time to man up a little JP!

I'm sorry......this letter, combined with the response that he sent to the kid that was complaining about the program makes me lose a lot of respect for JP. He seems like an egotistical little man that cannot admit his own mistakes.

He has a ******-off fan base, and I think this letter will make them even more ****** off.

There is one constant in the steady downfall of the ISU MBB program over the last 4 years......and it is the man in charge of it. That's it. He is the only constant factor. Wake up people! Don't buy this nonsense from JP. He is just trying to cover his *** and passing the blame onto others. Think about it........he is passing the blame onto the ATHLETES! How do you think that will help recruiting?